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Reached 250 Posts, Time For My First Contest! Winner=mycrob

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 Posted 03/10/2009  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! PM sent
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 Posted 03/10/2009  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MtnCoinMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let me see if I can explain this.

Using an Excel Spreadsheet, enter A,B,C...Z,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,!,@,#,etc...across the top. 26 letters, 10 numbers, 10 symbols with the symbols following the same order as numbers. This is an assumption but a wise one to start with. Each letter, number and symbol will be in it's own cell in Excel. You will have 46 cells filled up. The first row of the actual cipher is the same as the first row. The only tricky part, other than the keyword, is which way does the second row shift, left or right, one, two or more spaces. Like this:
A B C D
B C D E
C D E F

or

A B C D
) A B C
( ) A B

I used the second example. Some will go like this:
A B C D
D E F G
G H I J
But I thought that would be too difficult, so I just did a single rotation. But I did do it the opposite of the Wikipedia example, which shifted left, I shifted right.

Next, the DOWN letters, which are the actual letters to the clue go down alphabetically but you don't need the symbols since all symbols represent a letter. Like this:
A
B
C
D
E
etc...

Since we know that the first word and the last word are the same, then the letter "M" and "N" must be in the same ROW to represent the same letter on the left. We now know it is M but before we knew that, we just knew they were in the same row. The second symbol "!" and "D" will also be in the same row. The same for the next three symbols. Without the keyword, it would still be extremely difficult to solve, but you would have some idea of how to configure the cipher box.

If anyone would be interested in seeing the actual cipher box I made in Excel, just let me know and I will email it to you.
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 Posted 03/10/2009  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Absolutely amazing! Congrats!
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 Posted 03/10/2009  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did the exact same thing except not being used to this I put A to Z along the top and A to ) down the side. I don't think that should make a difference though.

Don't M and N both appear on every row? And in your cipher I had the letter N for Money on the Z row while the letter M for Money on the Y row, so they are not on the same row?

I'm still not getting it am I! I'll PM you my email so you can send your grid, maybe that will make it clearer for me.

Sorry to be a pain I am intrigued now.
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 Posted 03/10/2009  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add soldier4Christ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice job mycrob... I was on my way ...I had the key word but hadn't figured out the order of the symbols and numbers in the cypher... I must admit that the Mercury part def made me scratch my head! Thanks so much MtnCoinMan this was a fun and challenging contest, my favorite one yet! I learned a lot about ciphers and codes so I feel like a winner too! Just not a silver winner
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 Posted 03/10/2009  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats mycrob ... Did I hear you won a Zephyr?
Thanks for the contest MtnCoinMan!
even if it's
Waaaaaaaaaaaaay over my head
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 Posted 03/10/2009  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MtnCoinMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, he won a silver coin with some kind of picture of Lady Liberty with a draped bust and the year 1804 on it.

I am already planning my 500 post cipher, it will be even more fun, I hope.
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 Posted 03/10/2009  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mycrob Congrats I still dont know whats going on
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is right! Congrats!
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 Posted 03/11/2009  01:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats mycrob! A very well-deserved prize..

now if you'll pardon me.. I think my head just exploded...
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 Posted 03/11/2009  05:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dreamstones to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations mycrob...I wasn't even close!
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 Posted 03/14/2009  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rec'd silver ounce today. Gorgeous, thanks so much!!
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