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8 Reales: What Would You Do?

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 Posted 03/18/2009  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
haha, I just realized that thanks to a typo I hadn't revealed that the date was an 1806 until now. I think that i'll probably go for it.

Once I get it, i'll show you guys and get some advice how to proceed from there.

Thanks!
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 Posted 03/18/2009  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, everyone, here it is!



Image: 8-Reales:-What-Would-You-Do? MexicoColonial8R1806Mobv2.jpg
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Image: 8-Reales:-What-Would-You-Do? MexicoColonial8R1806Mrev2.jpg
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So what do you think? Worth the $20?
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 Posted 03/18/2009  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice piece from the Oriental trade. I don't see any verdigris. =)
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 Posted 03/18/2009  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Numismat- Thanks! There still are some traces by the bottom left lion of the Coat of Arms as well as to the bottom left out side of the shield. In this area there are also some rather recent scratches were presumably caused by the previous owner scraping a much larger blob of PVC crud off of the reverse.
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 Posted 03/18/2009  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manila galleon trade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
very nice for 20 bucks
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 Posted 03/19/2009  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great buy for the price. Nice coin to put in your collection.
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 Posted 03/19/2009  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That was a very good buy indeed. Hardly any PVC stuff at all. There is something very satisfying about large silver coins -- I can see why they were so popular for so long. :)
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 Posted 03/19/2009  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
manilagalleontrade, jfransch, & Bacchus2 - Thanks! Would you guys agree that this is a VF?
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 Posted 03/19/2009  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manila galleon trade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you bathed this already with acetone?
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 Posted 03/19/2009  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ohhh... so these are chop marks? I always imagined them to be bigger and with more characters...
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 Posted 03/19/2009  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice coin,i have a couple questions,#1-if it is so easily cleaned then why didn't the dealer clean it and then sell it for more? #2-does anyone think it would be safe to use a worn out(soft) tooth brush on it?
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 Posted 03/19/2009  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wd1040- Chop marks tend to very quite a bit. More often than not, chops are just small symbols used by an individual merchant rather than an actual Asian character.

John1- Well the reason why my dealer didn't just sell it for more has a lot to do with the market for foreign coins in my neck of the woods. In fact, there is virtually no market for them. Due to this, I have gotten a million great deals from this dealer. But in all fairness, part of it is also due to the fact that I have been a loyal customer for over 10 years and am on really good terms with him.
As for the issue of the toothbrush, I wouldn't clean the coin unless it was absolutely necessary. I think that the bristles would chance further scratching the coin. A slight rubbing with a soft cloth might be the best way to go in order to slightly improve the appearance without truly "Cleaning" a coin.
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 Posted 03/19/2009  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
John, your toothbrush is the perfect thing for dug or sea-salvaged coins. I would certainly not use it on an original and decent coin.
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 Posted 03/19/2009  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Archraz. I would say VF/chops sounds good if you want to assign that kind of grade. I really never think in terms of VF,XF,AU etc, I own very few slabbed coins and buy my coins based on their appeal to me and if I think I am getting value for my money. (your purchase here is an easy $35 dollar coin so you got plenty of value for your money!) I am often amazed at the grades on slabs and wonder how many people buy the slab without really looking at the coin.
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 Posted 03/20/2009  01:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
jfransch- I totally know what you mean about some people just buying the slab rather than the coin. So in your mind do the chops reduce the grad or value? I'm just wondering since this does seem to be the case for many collectors, but not for me. I think that the chops had more of a historical context to the coin.
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