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Needing Advice On Grading Morgan Dollars

 
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 Posted 06/01/2023  12:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sannys25 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am trying to figure out which coins I am going to send to PCGS or NGCC and I hoping someone could give me some advice on grading.

What grade (ballpark) would you give these two coins?

1884-O
1880-S





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 Posted 06/01/2023  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
first these photos are not the best to assess from

the 84(O) obv color looks questionable even if authentic the coin would need to grade MS65 to warrant spending the $ to grade it. at best the coin looks MS63 maybe 64 but I don't think it would grade straight

the 80(S) obv color also looks questionable. again the coin would need to grade 65 to warrant grading. the reverse photo is too small to determine grade. maybe 64
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 Posted 06/01/2023  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both look to be artificial toning to me, neither are worth sending in to be graded.
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 Posted 06/01/2023  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely not worth grading, both look like "details" coins.



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 Posted 06/01/2023  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both AU details, questionable color, not worth submitting.
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 Posted 06/02/2023  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sannys25 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When you guys are saying "questionable coloring" - does that mean someone "accelerated/artificially colored the coin?
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 Posted 06/02/2023  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am at UNC Details questionable toning on both coins.


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When you guys are saying "questionable coloring" - does that mean someone "accelerated/artificially colored the coin?

The simple answer is Yes
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 Posted 06/02/2023  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you get these in a PCI holder? Look like coins from an auction house in Florida.
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psuman08 said:

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Did you get these in a PCI holder? Look like coins from an auction house in Florida.

I know the one of which you speak - I see their auctions on HiBid. They have a surprisingly high number of "toned" coins - Morgans, ASEs, etc.
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I bought these at a garage sale,
Bought around 400-ish coins. It was an older gentleman that passed away.
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Neither of these are worth sending in.

They're both artificially toned as well.
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When you guys are saying "questionable coloring" - does that mean someone "accelerated/artificially colored the coin?


when we say questionable color we are saying that the toning is not natural but we cannot determine how it was done. there are several ways to AT a coin
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