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1855 Slanted 55 Braided Hair Cent And A Story To Tell - You Vs PCGS

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So I'm looking around ebay and I come across this coin. Dealer I've bought from before with good results. Advertised as an ANACS coin. Turns out it's slabbed as a PCGS 1855 Slanted 55. Mis-identified and mis slabbed. I made an offer and bought it. Obvious EDS N-9. Couple of rough dings on the obverse and a small rim ding on reverse, but not a details coin and looks like a tad of mint luster remaining. What grade do you give it. Seller's pics - not yet in hand.

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Still a nice example

AU-55ish to my eyes, probably straight graded...
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Agree with AU-55, not a fan to be honest.
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AU53. The hit on the cheek and left of the date + the rim issues would be a no-go for me, but the rest of the coin is decent.

Curious about what's happening at S12 obverse - is that just a smudge on the holder?
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I'd tend to agree with AU53 - with the stated rim damage and the various nicks.

EDIT. That line above the front of the crown looks like it's on the holder - same color as the one on the case that seems to go across her nose. The OP should be able to tell us for sure.
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I'll say AU.
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Yes, this coin has a few flaws, but I was very surprised that PCGS didn't identify it as a Knob Ear variety (Die state c, I think), nor did the experienced dealer market it as such. I paid EF money for the coin, which I thought was more than fair. Will post slab pics tomorrow.
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AU53. looks like knob on ear variety
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Without question. That's why I bought it.
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The "knob ear" is fairly common (R1) and not usually attributed unless the submitter requests variety attribution. Since this is an EDS coin, the seller may not have noticed; or may have but did not want to spend the extra $15 or whatever it is now per coin for variety check.

PCGS slabs these as "Knob On Ear" on the holder.

The variety is interesting and makes for a good starting point for learning about the progression of die states, but it only adds a very modest premium to the value of the coin - the condition of the coin itself is a much stronger determinant of its value.





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Looks like an AU-53 straight grade. Looks like PCGS missed the Knob Ear. Nice find on your part!
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A lot of you were right on this one. I think this is fairly graded. Paralyse, you're right about the R1 rarity of this variety, but I think there is a decided premium for it. Price list pictures is from the NGC & PCGS values sites. NGC values are outdated, but show the relative value, I think. PCGS values are more recent.


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The premium tends to favor MDS and later die states where the "knob" is more prominent. (I suppose "modest" is relative, yes?)

Regardless, it's a nice bit of copper and a good cherrypick. It would be worth a reslab with variety attribution, if you so desire, and you'd probably come out ahead on the deal.

I don't put much weight into price guides and prefer to look at auction data. It's more reliable and a much better "finger on the pulse" of the market provided that a given coin is sufficiently popular as to be frequently seen at auction. A large part of my rationale is that a grade (e.g. AU53) can cover a wide spectrum of coins, from the ugliest of the ugly to the best of the best, so looking at images of actual examples that have sold is more valuable to me than a strict numeric TPG grade.
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Yeah, I don't disagree. I was scrolling around ebay with a search for slant 55 knob ears. Some pretty crappy coins asking big money, not that they'll get it. Felt pretty good with a PCGS slabbed example, although EDS.
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