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Help With Identifying The Spotting On This 1901 Indian Head Cent's Reverse.

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 Posted 04/16/2025  9:07 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Vorpaledged to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,

I'm sorta out of my element when engaging in most Numismatics other than Mint Errors lol, Is this spotting from 7 o'clock to 9 o'clock area Carbon or Red turning Brown oxidation? It's more pronounced with TrueView.

TrueView:


In PCGS Holder:



Thanks!
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 Posted 04/16/2025  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marve65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You don't mention if you bought it or what grade it is. Looks like roughness on the die - Rusted die that had been cleaned?
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 Posted 04/16/2025  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vorpaledged to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Marv65, Thanks! It's MS66+RD, If I can find out what it is and it's a normal thing I might be interested in purchasing it but if it's something that is undesirable, I won't be. Excuse the shallow info as It's something I am interested in buying.

Here's a larger photo:

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 Posted 04/16/2025  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marve65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It's MS66+RD,

That's a great grade - I think the only way to find out is a direct call to PCGS.
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I think it could be Snow 23 "rusted reverse", a three star variety .

Snow says- it's very unusual die damage. Since the die pitting is isolated, it may have been caused by acid on the die.
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 Posted 04/17/2025  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vorpaledged to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the help so far! With the grade being so high (MS66+Red), would that even be a possibility?
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Thanks for the help so far! With the grade being so high (MS66+Red), would that even be a possibility?

That would be totally up to you - if you are looking for a 66 I'd pass. If you are looking for that exact example of a rusted die - then that is yours......
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 Posted 04/27/2025  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bikergeek to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I looked up the Snow 23 Rusted Reverse that 52Raymo mentioned, as I wasn't familiar with that. https://www.indianvarieties.com/cen...901-rst-001/

I think the Snow example shows the rust spots especially around the lettering, like between C and E of CENT. And since the die is pitted, the spots on the coin are raised. I don't see that same effect, nor is it in the same place on the coin, in this 66+. So, I think it's just some bad tarnish. Given that I conclude it's NOT the interesting Snow 23 variety, and with the tarnish and that little hit at 6 o'clock, this is one I'd pass on. YMMV.
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If I may ask what was the price for the coin ? If the price was right it would be an interesting coin to own, no ? Yes ?
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Looks like an even but natural color progression from Red to Brown. I do not think that it detracts much, or should be treated as harshly as a carbon spot. The coin is quite nice.
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Marve65, what I mean is, it was graded MS66+ by PCGS, if it was rusted or had a plantchet flaw is there a possibility PCGS would even grade it that high?

Here are full photos of the coin:




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Thank you for that info bikergeek!!
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I appreciate it jacrispies, Thanks!!
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