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New Member
United States
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New member excited to join .. I have lots of coins but am just now getting interested. Would appreciate if members can let me know their thoughts on this 1925-S Cal Jubilee. I did read one post and it was found by you experts to be a fake .. I am no coin expert but this one of ours looks like the origials other members have posted and it has a lot of crisp detail. Last question why does it have some colors on the surface ? I believe you coin collectors call it toning ? Is this a good or bad thing ? Thank you.  
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Moderator
 United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17363 Posts |
Interesting. Please post a photo of the other side. Thanks.
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New Member
 United States
11 Posts |
1925_Jubilee_Backside 
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New Member
 United States
11 Posts |
Its very difficult to get a pic of both sides but I am having a harder time on the backside .. posted the best I could take
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
13568 Posts |
 to the CCF We indeed have lots of experts to help you - so feel free to post as many coins as you wish, one coin per thread please. Alas - your California Diamond Jubilee is not an authentic example. Compare to this legitimate example - PCGS MS66+/CAC  Sorry to be the bearer of bad news- but that was your request, and our exerts remain to support your coinquetsion needs.
Take a look at my other hobby ... https://www.jk-dk.artToo many hobbies .... too much work .... not enough time.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6046 Posts |
Quote: Alas - your California Diamond Jubilee is not an authentic example. 
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
20202 Posts |
Be wary of the 50 cent commemoratives, the Chinese have counterfeited nearly every one in the series. Check carefully any you buy uncertified online.
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New Member
 United States
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Thanks you all replies. I did read a post where the same known example was posted a reference to a fake. In that case I could see some differences that stood out although I cannot in this cade can y'all point out what I am missing ? For example the other post the gold pan was very different , the solid line / border was missing .. when I look at the fronts side by side they look the same the backside are similar although the pic of the known example is great pic. I will try a black background as well .. lighting is the biggest challenge I collect 1911 military pistols they are also very hard to get good pics of. Not challenging anyones opinion at all and if its fake that is fine it wont burst any bubbles here .. how many decades ago did they make fakes ? the example we have came from my wifes grandmother it was in with several gold coins some of which we already sold and those were legit in fact of they 100 or so coins this would be the only fake. Looking for knowledge folks not arguing lol that is not what I do.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
20202 Posts |
Numismatic Terminology correction: The front is known as the Obverse The backside is known as the Reverse
There are numerous minor details aside from the fact that it is pitted. Look at the spacing between the S & T in TRUST. On yours there is more space on yours than there is on a genuine coin. It only takes one discrepancy to make it a counterfeit. Also did you weigh it to two decimal points, I doubt if yours is even silver.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6046 Posts |
I was going by the folds in the miners clothing ( shirt cuff and back of collar to hair) looked "off" to me.
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New Member
 United States
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Jimmy thanks for replying .. again I am looking to experts for advice not here to argue however the space between the T and S in my pic is an illusion the spacing is the same. I will post more pics .. it is not magnetic I tried using a magnet no reaction at all .. it weights .441 ounces or 12.5g's using my electronic scale I will post a [ic of that to. I to was taken back by what appeared to be pitting but it is not. I will try to post pics zoomed in many times but they are large files. I also used a loop. I read up on toning ? this coin has colors on the surfers including the recesses those areas look like pitting but I can say no pitting at all. I collect 1911 pistols made between 1912 through 1945 . Although I am very confident in my knowledge to tell an original finish gun from a refinished gun I have been mislead by poor pics. So with more data and the hopefully better pics I will post please confirm your assessment. I emailed pics to a major auction house as I have far too many old coins lol they want to sell my Jubilee but if its a fake I wont sell it as original.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
20202 Posts |
Better pictures might help in making a determination but right know we can only go by what we are seeing on photos supplied.
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New Member
 United States
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I measured width and thickness as follows - width = 1.2010" thickness = .0885" along with the weight I provided .. working on pics now its difficult to get them compressed down to 300KB .. as mentioned I am by no means a coin guy but comparing it to internet pics which vary slightly coin to coin I image due to how hard each coin was struck ? how early or late it was struck in regard to how the tooling wore ? I am figuring out coins are very similar to early 1911 pistols .. I always start by looking at the roll marks on each pistol to see if they are correct , the roll die impressions vary due to how hard rolled , how the jigs were set up and you can absolutely see differences early in that serial number range to later as the roll dies wore .. oh man I am getting sucked into coin collecting lol I have another one I think is cool it is an earlier Mexican silver coin that has neat toning colors maybe I will post it to.
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
 United States
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Quote: working on pics now its difficult to get them compressed down to 300KB Are you using the optimizer/compression tool available here on CCF. I've found it works rather well as long as the original image wasn't in very high resolution. I look forward to clearer images!
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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New Member
 United States
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OK did my best to get better pics . if any of you are good at taking pics of coins it would be great to get some advice in regard to background , lightings ... 
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