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Sinking Feeling In My Stomach...

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 Posted 02/19/2010  11:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CheetahCats to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Got this off ebay about 6 months ago. Should have paid more attention at the time...

12.45 grams - almost per spec 12.44 grams...



Something weird below mintmark...

Examination w/ stereo microscope


Coin flipped upsidedown


Rim


This sucks! Shanghaied!
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 Posted 02/20/2010  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also I don't know if its just me, it looks harshly cleaned.
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 Posted 02/20/2010  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CheetahCats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea, after they carved out "REPLICA" from near the mintmark, they applied a belt sander to give it a good sheen!
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 Posted 02/20/2010  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfwitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That sucks.
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 Posted 02/20/2010  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coretj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought that the "replica" and "copy" stamps were pressed in.. How could they carve it out?
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 Posted 02/20/2010  01:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CheetahCats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coretj -> they bore around each letter to obliterate.

see image below. if one looks carefully, one can see directly above the head of the arrow, above the blue "L", one can see where the "L" wasn't obliterated. You can also see the remnants of the "A" where it wasn't entirely obliterated.



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 Posted 02/20/2010  04:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coretj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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coretj -> they bore around each letter to obliterate.

But wouldn't that leave a trench in the coin?
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 Posted 02/20/2010  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CheetahCats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The arrows are pointing to "trenches" in the coin....
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 Posted 02/20/2010  07:34 am  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope you didn't pay too much.
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 Posted 02/20/2010  07:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a reeding hit from another coin to me. Where are the first three letters if the last 4 were so strongly tooled away?
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 Posted 02/20/2010  08:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first thing I thought of was a reeding hit too.
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 Posted 02/20/2010  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MINT_MARQ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think they ussually stamp "Copy" on the coins not replica.

On the bright side the shapes don't look to line up...

On the skeptic side, it now has a reason to have four gouges instead of 7...Could it have been stamped YPOC, because they blew it on the engraving.
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 Posted 02/20/2010  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO, I don't think this was stamped "Replica" and then tooled away.

Reasons:

I don't think there is much counterfeit market for a relatively common mintage like that of the 1855 O Seated Half.

And I've never seen a counterfeit stamped "Replica" or "Copy" below the O and above the Half Dollar before.

The weight checks out.

So,

I agree with SuperDave and Chequer. It really looks like a reeding hit from another coin. (It looks like other reeding hits in the upper left reverse field too).

I'm leaning towards an authentic EF45 coin with just a couple of bag marks.



(edited to correct my lack of spell check!)
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 Posted 02/20/2010  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfwitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that I have never seen replica just copy. Some are printed quite small and others larger.
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 Posted 02/20/2010  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Check out the following, and you can request the stamp on either side of the coin
http://cgi.ebay.com/Replica-47-LIBE...py_W0QQitemZ280465992891QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item414d136cbb
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 Posted 02/20/2010  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fyimo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well if it's not replica tooled out then there is certainly something weird going on with the coin.
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