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 Posted 11/03/2010  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I haven't come back sooner but it appears you guys hit them all. Probably a few more now because my last Chem book still says 109 elements in the table. Funny what are those 110 through 115 that people are still fighting over. Anyway, best way to play is with commodities, but be forwarded and perform due diligence on any investment. Commodities, like coin trading, is not for the feint of heart. I'm looking for an index fund but can't find one I like.

Wikipedia has the simplest definition:


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As defined by IUPAC, rare earth elements or rare earth metals are a collection of seventeen chemical elements in the periodic table, namely scandium, yttrium, and the fifteen lanthanides.[1] Scandium and yttrium are considered rare earth elements since they tend to occur in the same ore deposits as the lanthanides and exhibit similar chemical properties.

Despite their name, rare earth elements (with the exception of the highly unstable promethium) are found in relatively high concentrations in the Earth's crust, with cerium being the 25th most abundant element at 68 parts per million (similar to copper). However, because of their geochemical properties, rare earth elements seldom concentrate into economically exploitable ore deposits.[2] The scarcity of these minerals (or "earths") was denoted by their original French name, terre rare. The first such mineral discovered was gadolinite, extracted from one mine in the village of Ytterby, Sweden; many of the elements bear names derived from this location.


Many are required for the manufacture of electronics and strategic "stuff". I always thought Moly was one also, but I was wrong....

BTW, CU, AG, NI, and...forgot the Zinc symbol, but anyway...are not "rare earth" metals. Look for the electrotropic elements. Just google the periodic elemental table to read up.

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 Posted 11/03/2010  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wonder if the drop in metals today is directly related to the results of our elections yesterday and the changing of party majority?
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 Posted 11/03/2010  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't looked yet, what's the $ index at today? Actually, I should have asked if the $ is strengthening again? I think it's temporary. Reports say the FED wants to buy back almost half a trillion. That should send metals higher. I gotta sell that gold!!
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CNBC is saying QE could total $3 trillion over the next 12 months. If that doesn't sink the greenback,I don't know what will. That being said,gold just dropped $23/oz. Somebody is getting out big time. I am going to hold tight a bit lnger since I got my gold at $620 /oz.
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 Posted 11/03/2010  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldcoach to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silver is down .77 with the big drop the last few hours.

Like my mom says, stay with booze, bullets and bullion; and I always do what momma says!!
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CNBC is saying QE could total $3 trillion over the next 12 months. If that doesn't sink the greenback,I don't know what will. That being said,gold just dropped $23/oz. SOMEBODY IS GETTING OUT BIGTIME. I am going to hold tight a bit lnger since I got my gold at $620 /oz.
yeah sorry guys, it was me--i sold an ounce today.
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 Posted 11/03/2010  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oober to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Added a few more SML's on the price drop. Always adding, DCAing my way through life. :)
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Well, I'm certainly no expert, but the QE2 number is official. The FED is bying back 600 B as in Billion. I still think metals will rebound. In the after hours, gold is up $10 and silver is almost $25 again. Give it a day or so.
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Alright so being new to this trading thing, answer this for me if you would :).

Does the price of collectibles, such as coins, stamps, antique bottles or hell, even beanie babies go up and down as the stock market? I mean, I understand that prices fluctuate - but based on what? Just demand, people needing money so they sell there collections? Or do stocks/metal prices affect my beloved small penny collection?
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 Posted 11/03/2010  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oblakavshtanax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
as far as metals go, yes. as far as other collectibles without intrinsic value, there are so many more factors it's mind boggling.
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For your trivia quiz: Gold is the 19th most abundant element in the Earth's crust.
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 Posted 11/04/2010  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bryan1234 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
silvers at 25.51, we will get to 30 soon
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I'm looking for an index fund but can't find one I like.


Have you looked at PCRIX‎ - PIMCO Commodity Real Ret Strat Instl? It invests in a basket of commodities via futures and is reasonable in terms of expense ratio.
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Lol, look at today's spot prices in the morning alone. Everyone who sold in the last week is going to look at next week in awe.
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Could have sworn that I answered you KenKat, guess not. Thanks for the symbol and I've done some prelim stuff. Interesting, but I need the prospectus. Not enough info on line.

Also, gold, for the trivia buffs, is supposed to be 24 times less abundant that silver. I've always wondered why the ratio was so skewed. Ever since the dawn of the digital camera, silver sales have weakened. Although what a jump today; $1.06 so far.

Here's one for you; check out POLYONE; petrochemical co that is hiring like crazy and with exports up exponentially. Finally an American company with huge export potential. (Shhh, don't tell the administration....)
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