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 Posted 03/12/2011  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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biggfredd I'll have to respectfully disagree and agree at the same time. 40 % is not rarely,I wish I had those odds in the lottery. And then you need to consider that ebay is not just an auction site, so comparing apples to oranges means nothing.I have sold 99% of everything I listed for auction.I'm happy with those numbers but would be glad to hear of a better alternative.

Although I really, really hate ebay, I still agree with the above. Although biggfredd makes it sound like so few are viewing coins on ebay compared to some auction house, I highly doubt there is any auction house with millions and millions of coins constantly changing almost hourly. True, many may only get a few hits but considering the possibly many millions or even billions of coins constantly on ebay, even that is fantastic. As I said I really hate ebay but I highly doubt there is any place on Earth that does get their amount of customers all day, every day, all year long.
Also, as I mentioned my Son sells what I consider JUNK on ebay and it it almost always gets sold.
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 Posted 03/12/2011  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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sell-thru on ebay is around 40%.

One only has to pick a category and look at auctions with no bids and ending soonest to see why. It ain't ebay's fault. You got sellers with lousy feedback, lousy photos, and asking way too much money for an opening bid skewing that number very dramatically.
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 Posted 03/12/2011  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
bobby131313...good points which I also thought of...but didn't want to overstate my case...thanks for adding
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 Posted 03/12/2011  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IBGolden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When you have entered your ebay search, all the listings appear that meet your search criteria. You can then view the small pictures (and brief descriptions) in that list without clicking on/viewing a particular item. The counter which shows the number of views on a particular item, is just the number of times that particular item was clicked on to view all the auction particulars. In other words, the item may have been viewed in the search criteria list many more times than the item was actually clicked on for all details (and the counter only tracks the number of hits/clicks on that particular auction).

So, the counter is somewhat deceiving. An overpriced item may have been viewed many times in a search list, but never clicked on... hence showing *no views... until you click on it to see how many people looked at it.

*Btw, the counters start at "1", not "0".
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 Posted 03/12/2011  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree completely with bobby131313. Just look at the ending soonest page for any coin type and see the large numbers of coins with no bids. Case in point: I've got a post right now in another forum on this site about 1 dateless Buffalo nickel listed at $1 with $2.95 shipping. Absurd. I'd love to sell all my coins at the big prices some sellers are asking. I do believe, however, that most FAIRLY priced coins with REASONABLE shipping prices sell. I buy many coins at a fair price even as duplicates because I think the downside is small.
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 Posted 03/13/2011  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is actually a topic I have thought long and hard about even before I read these posts. I keep asking myself if it is really worth it to sell on ebay in the long run.

Lets say I purchase an item for $1.00 and sell it for $6.00 with free shipping.
Here is how I see the breakdown:
1.00 - bought price
0.25 - list price
0.54 - sell cost
0.30 - paypal fee
0.17 - paypal percent
0.61 - shipping (first class no frills)
0.25 - materials
0.40 - gas to purchase supplies and to ship item from PO
0.53 - BOE (if sold in state)
1.50 - personal tax (seriously)
6.00 - sale amount
0.45 - profit
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 Posted 03/13/2011  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysilveryears to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been selling on ebay since 1999. Without that 'long run' of success in my niche market (not coins), I would be diving dumpsters behind pizza places, fighting the feral felines for table scraps.
My strategy is simple: know your merchandise and your market; keep starting bids low; provide excellent photos, descriptions, and customer service. And always offer enough in the listing to make it worthwhile to list. I rarely list anything below 9.99 starting bid. Almost 4500 positive feedback ratings and no negs suggest I am doing something right. I certainly do not agree with every ebay policy, but as others have pointed out, it is pretty much the 'only game in town' that can provide the customer base and worldwide exposure. That is not likely to change anytime soon.
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 Posted 03/13/2011  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nickelman--

If more people did a full accounting, they'd find better things to do. I looked at a silver parfulseller/shooting star once. If you figured he was tripling his money, ebay was making $1200 a month for shuffling a few electrons, and he was making $900 for doing all the work.

He listed 100 items a day, so between that and filling orders, answering emails, trips to the po, etc, it would be reasonable to figure he was working a 40 hour week. Let's see, $10,800 a year = $5.40 an hour. How much is minimum wage, and when the day is over, your time is yours?

Another thing people don't factor in is the listing fee. With 40% sell thru, it means the average item is listed 2.5 times, so its listing fee isn't a quarter, but $.625.
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 Posted 03/13/2011  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it is amazing when you are trying to earn a living just how many people have their hand in your pocket
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 Posted 03/13/2011  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nickelman raises a good point on very low value items. There is no point in using ebay when selling widgets that are worth just a few bucks.

This is my first month selling on ebay and my sales so far are roughly $3300 with almost exactly 10% ($340) going to eBay/PayPal fees. I couldn't have gotten the $3300 out of my coins elsewhere, so 10% fees are fine with me. The Final Value Fee cap at $50 is something that I didn't know about until this year and it helps to hold the fees down on high value items.
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 Posted 03/13/2011  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think a point being missed by some is what mysilveryears pointed out.If you know what you are doing,eBay can be profitable and I'm really not against people talking themselves out of it (more for me)...so to those of you who discourage others from doing so...thanks
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 Posted 03/13/2011  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I get all of that for sure. The sellers I do NOT get are the ones that take a loss consistently. I bought a coin last year from a seller that offered free shipping. I won the coin for under a dollar and when it arrived the postage was around .40 cents. Now don't get me wrong, I didn't get the coin for a great price, it was a coin that just didn't have any value in fact I probably paid too much for it.

I checked the sellers other auctions for similar coins (there were a lot of them) and they were going for .40 to .75 cents. Free shipping? on a coin that will make less than the postage? Even if the person got the coins for free they still took a loss once the dust settled. I just don't get that.
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 Posted 03/13/2011  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nickelman...those are the guys to buy from...when I buy, I look for the ones that don't know how to sell.
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 Posted 03/15/2011  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add timsumrall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nickelman: Some of those guys are trying to get or keep a high status for discounts on the high price stuff. Every lose is a write off.

I'm still trying to figure if the new fee schedule is going to help $1 to $5 coin(s) sale. The way it is now it's scary putting a coin up for $.99 to avoid insertion fees.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rj11248 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I actually start almost all of my auctions at $.99 and I usually end up with the same ending price as the buy it nows and sometimes I get more that the buy it now prices.
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