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 Posted 03/16/2011  7:15 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add brokencompass to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was wondering what kind of insurances people on here get for their coins. I am contemplating getting a renters insurance but not sure if that's the best way of protecting my collection against whatever happens to it. Suggestions?
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 Posted 03/16/2011  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you have the coins in a safe deposit box, you don't have to worry. Now if they are at home, I hope you have a large heavy safe and then consult your insurance agent and ask if they have some sort of collectibles insurance.......bewarned, I believe its pretty expensive I think
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 Posted 03/16/2011  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wolf-n-wa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can insure "ANYTHING" for a price. I agree with a large, heavy safe or safe deposit box although their is no way all my coins would fit in one. WOLF
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 Posted 03/16/2011  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rayman311 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most Renters and Homeowners Policies limit the amount of coverage for collectibles and/or money under the policy. Some companies offer additional coverage via endorsement to the policy or through a separate policy such as a Article Floater policy or Valuable Property Policy. I'm sure you'll find most keep valuable coins in safety deposit box or personal safe.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Anarchus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definately a very heavy safe(so no one can run away with it)... I like gun safes myself, plenty of room for a LOT of coins
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 Posted 03/16/2011  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Darth Anarchus is absolutely right. Gunsafes are a lot less money for the same quality made now.

If you want more time for fire suppression, line the safe with another layer of concret board and cover with your favorite material.

Another HUGE plus with gunsafes, you can build shelves of your liking.
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 Posted 03/17/2011  03:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppertop5150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A relative had a fire in his house , burned paintings and coins along with many other valuables.

Story short, he had them covered for what he thought was the replacement value ,kept pictures of most items in a safety deposit box.

His CD collection alone was over 500 cd's he valued them at 12$ each you would think that he would make it worth a little over $5000. The insurance company told him once they are bought and used the new replacement value is $3 each and if he argued the value make a list of each c/d and provide receipts and they would provide $6 each for replacement cost . How are you gonna do that when his cd collection dates from the early 90's to current that 20 yrs off receipt collecting

Then to the paintings, he had " to prove someone would by them at full replacement cost "
one painting was values at $8,000 a adjusted looked at it and valued it at $ 1,100
then they tried to devalue you the painting by saying it was worth less each year he owned it
pretty much everything he owned was worth about 20% of what he insured it for.

Then to top it off some stuff was burned that he had no proof he owned and unless they can find evidence it was in the fire its your loss.
You might have a $3000 sofa and after its burned its just a coil of springs a adjusted says used love seat $300 value if your lucky

SO PLEASE TAKE PICS , SAVE ALL RECECORDS OF PURCHASES,SERIAL NUMBER ON THINGS, SAVE INDEP APPRAISELS AND KEEP THEM IN A FILE NOT INSIDE YOUR HOUSE INCASE OF FIRE , KEEP THEM IN A SAFTY DEPOSIT BOX.

YOUR GUESSING/COVERAGE REPLACEMENT VALUE HAS NO MERIT ULESS YOU HAD IT APPRAISED BY A INDEP APPRAISER THAT IS CERTIFIED AND THE INSURACNE COMPANY RECONIZES IT
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 Posted 03/17/2011  06:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zarboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An Insurance policy is nothing more than a bet between you and the insurance company,and pay them monthly for it, just to end up losing the bet
I personally do not like insurance, and also opt for the Safe and other storage mechanisms.
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 Posted 03/17/2011  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimineez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Video is even better than pictures.
bolt the safe to the floor if possible
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 Posted 03/17/2011  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Make sure you buy insurance from an agent who can explain in plain language exactly what you're covered for.
We had a fire in our first house and took a huge loss as the contents were insured for only replacement value,we had bought a new fridge and stove on Saturday,the fire was on Monday and we were paid $150 for the value of used appliances,foranything of which we had no record we were paid $0.
Our second house was destroyed by a tornado.We had learned about insurance coverage,and keeping records.We ended up after that disaster with everythig back the way it was.
We no longer insure coins or other collectibles as the cost and paperwork is just too much.
We have an SD box and a 600 lb.safe bolted to the concrete.The used safe was $150,getting it home and installed,priceless.
As to gun lockers,my neighbor had one bolted to the wooden floor and wall.Two thieves,in the middle of the day broke in,used a large wrecking bar,and in ten minutes left with the entire locker containing 3 guns,$30,000 dollars cash,and a bunch of jewelry.
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 Posted 03/17/2011  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneBowl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just finished up a discussion with my agent about a coin insurance rider. Cost of $12,000 coverage, $250 deductible, replacement value is $110. Cost of safe deposit box is $65. So the additional cost to enjoy the coins at home is $45. That's a pretty good deal, if you ask me. Inventory is required annually, so that's a 30 minute Excel spreadsheet. Not sure if I'll do it yet.

Regarding the insurance horror stories above, my experience is completely different. I have always been made whole. Documentation of some sort is indeed important and you can't put your tail between your legs and go away if you disagree with the company. If you understand the policy and procedures, you should be able to obtain full coverage per the contract. Note that most replacement policies call for actual replacement. They will cut a check for depreciated value, then upon receiving proof of replacement, you receive a check for the additional cost. So if you don't buy a chain saw to replace the one stolen, you get depreciated value.
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 Posted 03/17/2011  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you go to that link made by boby131313, you would see my ideas of insuring anything of value. In the good old days you would know your insurance agent, he would come to your house, he knew your family and you knew his. That sort of made your possesions a little safer in a way. Today you don't know them, and they don't know you. Everything you tell the insurance people goes into a computer and people see this that may or may not even be working there by night fall. Your personal information is as open to the world as if you published it in a newspaper. Car or home insurance is one thing, but to list all your possesions to strangers is just not smart with todays ability to hack into any companies files.
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I have underwriters insurance at my parents house. I have a gun safe there that I send coins home to be stored in. Those are mainly mint/proof sets. A lot of other coins that are not even worth reselling on the market now but could be worth a lot in the future. I plan on unlaoding it in 20-30 years when I retire.
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I recommend a SDB. I pay $110 per year for the biggest one they have. Renters insurance will cover some I believe, not much though. I think I was told $300.
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 Posted 03/17/2011  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onejinx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Gunsafes are a lot less money for the same quality made now."

A gun safe is nowhere near the quality of a burglary/fire safe.
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