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(Edited) Interesting 2009 LBC Lp3 Pics To Come

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 Posted 03/16/2011  09:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Cud Wild to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is my first DDR find . All I can say its about time. I've looked through probably 100,000 cents for a DDO or DDR. I'm not sure what variety this is but it made my day. Theres doubling of windows on the pillars.

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03/16/2011 9:36 pm
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 Posted 03/16/2011  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scurry64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The doubling generally appears on the third window of the top floor. Although I find it difficult to see small doubling in pics, I believe it is there. Congratulations!
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 Posted 03/16/2011  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see nothing.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cud Wild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW coppercoins you cant see that? Start from the left to right looking at only the pillars.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Umm, no. I can not. The image isn't nearly what would be needed to make any kind of determination on a minor doubled die.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cud Wild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is not a minor double die. Every pillar has the windows or part of the window. Even up on the top of the building has that also. The minor double die has one window or part of the window doubled. This one has 24 windows doubled.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's all fine and well. I did not say you do not have a doubled die - nor did I say you DO have a doubled die. What I tried to say in a nice way is that your image quality isn't nearly what it would take to SEE it. I'm not doubting what YOU see...but it is NOT VISIBLE to any degree of certainty in your image.

Given that, I could not possibly say with certainty that it is or it is not - nor could anyone else with that image.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cud Wild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just have one question. Why does his coat have windows on it too? I'm starting to think this isn't a double die but something else. The pillars lined up with windows for a DDR but why does the doubling proceed into his coat. Only him and the building are affected nothing else is.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Because it could easily be bag marks, or a number of other things that could cause this...but without being able to clearly see what you are seeing, it's really not possible for anyone to confidently respond to any question you would have about it.

Why would there be doubling in the coat? There wouldn't. It makes no sense for a doubled die to be like that, thus it's likely not a doubled die.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cud Wild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coppercoins this is not a double die. It appears to be a double struck coin. But to make matters more stranger everything was double struck backwards. But only the building and person was affected by the double struck. I'm getting really confused now. What in the world could cause something like that? What type of error would that be?
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 Posted 03/16/2011  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add liveandievarieties to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin is not double struck my friend, at least not by anything shown in your photos.

Don't be discouraged by the responses to your posts Cud Wild-

Everyone needs to remember that rare coins are incredibly difficult to come by, that's what makes them valuable. In short, rare coins ARE rare!
It's rare to come across ANYTHING of significance, just because the coin you're showing isn't what you hope it to be, it's not personal in any way, EVER.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cud Wild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No its definitely doubled all over the place I'm 100% positive on that but confused on what type of error this would be. Everything is backwards on the second strike. I'm not getting angry or anything just talking is all. And I'm not getting offended sorry if I sounded harsh in any way I didnt know I was. Tell me what type of error that would be based on my description.

EDITED: I know this coin is rare and I know its probably one of a kind. I also know this came from box number 3 that I found the double struck and Cud. This box is what I call a freak box. I know Ill never get another box like this in my lifetime.
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03/16/2011 12:40 pm
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This is my first DDR find

this is not a double die

Huh? I got whiplash trying to follow that one
I see a significant number of bagmarks on the coin, particularly the portion of Lincoln's coat by the left side of the portico. I see no possible scenario in this era of single squeeze hubbing that would allow a DDR to only have doubling on all 24 windows and nothing else. It is impossible to have a coin that has been double struck backwards. A double struck coin is affected on both sides with two strikes of normal design detail, nothing can be backwards.

Also, why are you calling it a "type 3 DDR"? There is Class 3 hub doubling but there is zero chance this is a Class 3 DDR.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cud Wild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im going to take better pictures.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Changeless to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cud Wild, I've been in your shoes. The thing is, a higher resolution image and an image that is not so high contrast (an image having more in between "gray scale" tones) is essential for communicating what the coin looks like "in person", (as I believe Mr. Coppercoins was pointing out).
It took me a while to realize that some of the "Pillars Of the Community" have personally looked closely at many thousands, possibly tens of thousands, of coins in their own searches, and their advice and observations are free, but can only be as good as my coin images allow.
Which is why I say, acquiring the equipment and the experience necessary for high quality close-ups is one of the major skills necessary for participating in this "Sport" over the Internet... but then this is another topic... best left to the Photography Forum section of this web site.
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 Posted 03/16/2011  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cud Wild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Heres one picture working on the others.


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