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Is It Real Of Fake | Syracuse Dekadrachm Tourist Copy

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Hi,
My grandfather gave me this coin just before he died and I would like to find out a bit more about it. I have searched the web and could only find similar coins not exact so I would love anybodies help with firstly identifying it and secondly valuing it. Hope someone can assist me.
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Shane





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 Posted 03/22/2011  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

First of sorry to hear about your grandfather.

Secondly - more bad news I'm afraid. This is a very crude copy of a Decadrachm of Syracuse.



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 Posted 03/22/2011  04:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thx for your condolences Bacchus2 and just for curiosity sake, how can you tell this is a fake?
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 Posted 03/22/2011  04:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are four main clues.

First, decadrachms are supposed to be silver; this is clearly not silver.

Second, the details are very fuzzy - a typical sign of a cast fake.

Third, the rim - ancient coins don't have high rims around the edge of the coin like that. Again, such a rim is often a by-product of making crude cast copies.

Fourth, this particular design has always been very popular for collectors and has been extensively copied for several centuries. We've seen quite a lot of them here on the forum. See this thread for a similar example.

Compare that one and your coin to the genuine example here.
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 Posted 09/12/2019  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mija to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,
I see it is an old topic but does anybldy know the price or the place where its from?
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@mija, first welcome to CCF. Second, just to be clear, are you asking where this specific fake coin was made or where a genuine coin would have been made (i.e. Syracuse...)?
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 Posted 09/13/2019  06:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mija to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would like to know where this fake coin comes from. Because I can't find anything about it on the internet. And would like to know if such a fake coin also has a value
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Ok yes now I understand. Coins are undoubtedly faked in many countries, but we seem to see them mostly coming from China and Eastern Europe. As fakes, they have little numismatic or value beyond education (what not to buy), but some folks are willing to spend a very small amount for their so-called black cabinet. Some fakes are made from precious metal in an effort to be more convincing and those are worth the intrinsic melt value.
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There really isn't any way to tell where this piece came from, it could be from a tourist shop in Greece, or from anywhere. Most of the fake ancient coins we see are either from Eastern Europe or China. They tend to look much better than this.
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