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1839 $ 50 Texas Bill Verification

 
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 Posted 05/05/2011  09:22 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mdpmedia to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,

I picked this bill up yesterday at an auction. It was hidden in the bottom of a box along with the actual coins I bid and won on.

This may turn out to be a lucky find or just an exercise in futility.

Please review the scans and indicate what you think this note is and whether or not it is authentic.

If it turns out to be authentic, I would like to know what sort of price a note like this is worth in today's market.

Thanks
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 Posted 05/05/2011  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One other piece of info that may be helpful is the dimension of the note:

7 1/8" x 3"



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 Posted 05/05/2011  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add td5173 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It look like your serial number is 5962. It is listed at http://www.crutchwilliams.com/Bogus...tml#REPUBLIC. This site list bogus CSA notes Texas republic notes. It is a great site.
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 Posted 05/05/2011  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You do not even need to know the serial number to see that it is only a replica but the crutchwilliams site is awesome for the less obvous replicas and fakes. The artificially aged parchment is a dead giveaway, rag paper is almost always used for notes due to durability issues.

This one might have been part of a series of replica notes along with the 1840 $1000 Bank on the US note, someone posted one of them a couple weeks ago- http://goccf.com/t/86379
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 Posted 08/07/2011  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OrientMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just came across one of these in my dads coin/bill collection and was wondering how I could tell how much and if it really is authentic.
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 Posted 08/07/2011  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OrientMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh I am new here to so pointing me around here would be nice since I have other coins and bills to identify and value too. But about the republic of Texas one I saw a serial number looking like 6767.
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 Posted 08/07/2011  01:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OrientMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh biokemist6. I saw that your profile pic has a gold coin. I tried to email you a question about it. But I can't email because of my account is so new. I found a coin that looks identical to the coin in your profile pic and wanted to ask you more about the coin.
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 Posted 08/07/2011  05:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I found a coin that looks identical to the coin in your profile pic

his avatar shows the Reverse of a $5 Liberty Half Eagle minted from 1838-1908

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But about the republic of Texas one I saw a serial number looking like 6767.

Are you sure its not a $5 note, because 16767 is also a known copy. A picture or a more precise description would be required to help you any further than this, but that site posted above is a pretty good site to see if any notes with the same serial numbers as the ones you have found are known copies of notes
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 Posted 08/07/2011  08:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OrientMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK Trying to upload a pic.
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 Posted 08/07/2011  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OrientMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok here is the pics of the $50 note and the $5 dollar coin.














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 Posted 08/07/2011  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whytlash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:


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I found a coin that looks identical to the coin in your profile pic


his avatar shows the Reverse of a $5 Liberty Half Eagle minted from 1838-1908


Actually, the reverse shown is of a Colorado Territorial Gold piece. It's an 1860 five dollar gold coin minted by Clark, Gruber & Co.

More information can be found here http://www.rfrajola.com/mayergold/mayergold.htm

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 Posted 08/07/2011  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OrientMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whytlash. Ha your right looking closer to his avatar pic it does say denver on it. and looking at mine it does say United States of America
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 Posted 08/07/2011  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ckrakowski to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
td5173 I read the serial number as 5960.
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 Posted 08/08/2011  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OrientMasters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would have to agree with TD5173 that the serial number is 5962. at least thats what I see.
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Yes, my avatar is a $5 Clark Gruber Colorado Territorial gold coin, similar design but much rarer than an ordinary Half Eagle.

The first Texas note is certainly a reproduction regardless of what the serial number looks like. The second Texas note looks like it could very well be genuine but I do not know much about it. Bigger pics of both sides would be helpful. Your $5 gold is an 1893 Half Eagle, it appears to be in at least AU(almost uncirculated) condition would would give it a value of around $500.
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 Posted 08/08/2011  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yankee1227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup 1st one is fake while the 2nd one looks to be authentic but not really sure.
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