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Edited by louisvillekyshop
11/18/2020 11:48 am
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I can see why this stumped you, and why its here. I dont like it... I feel like the details are too mushy, and that there is a faint hint of a well disguised cast line on the edge - but my mind could just be matrixing. I feel like this is a 'grand tour' forgery that has acquired some age / skillfully applied damage to make it look like an uneven flan. This being said, I'm talking from gut, so I'll yield the floor to those more knowledgeable than I. All I can say is that, as a professional dealer, I would not feel comfortable putting my name to that coin without TPG. |
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United States
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I think an expert on this type needs to look at this coin, in my novice opinion the coin does not appear to be genuine. I agree with norantyki comments.
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United States
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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It does look rather 'pasty' in the pictures, although surface corrosion as a result of ground burial may? produce the same result.
There appears to be a slight hint of removal of skillful removal of a circumferential casting seam.
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I think XRF examination may be of great help in this case.
Silver should be up there at about 95%, and there should be a wide variety of other metals.
To get some idea of what occurrence and %ages of what other metals there may be,
published records of metal analyses of other Roman denarii of the same period could be compared with the findings of XRF testing for this coin.
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Considering the increasing skills of the professionally dishonest to produce high quality fake coins,
I think it is becoming increasingly imperative for any coin dealer to protect himself to buy a hand held XRF testing instrument for his business,
or at least send doubtful coins away for sumbission for XRF testing.
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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Edited by louisvillekyshop
11/18/2020 11:20 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Difficult to tell, but I see no immediate warning signs.
I'm assuming you plan to sell it in your shop? I personally would probably send this one in to be *gasp* entombed. Not only will that probably double the hammer price, but I would trust their in-person inspection more than mine from a handful of pictures.
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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Fin235:
I do plan to sell it in the shop and I will say right away, as I always do, that if a person sends this off to NGC etc and it is not real I will refund them completely. And I'll mention there was a discussion they can reference here although I am not allowed to provide a direct link to this site it is easy enough to explain. The reason oddly enough I will not do the NGC myself is first I did NGC once and I did not see much of a difference except for the price of the process factored in in my shop for an Alexander the Great Tetradrachm, and second this will be much more fun for everyone as someone might get a deal, and I'll know the coin might end up coming back to me once they have it authenticated. Also, I once sold an Aegina Turtle and two years later it was returned as the NGC grader stated it is one of the Museum Electrotypes from the late 1800's. But now that piece, that I still have, is correctly categorized and the buyer got his money back so we all had an interesting experience. Lastly, and I was telling Bob L this, I was going to feel bad for the coin if there was a chance it was authentic as it went 2000 years only for me to take it out of circulation forever. Like the Romans put a God's spirit in so many things like rivers and bridges, I did not want to cross whatever this little coins destiny is as it just seemed cruel which of course must sound silly. Also it will be nice to know I was not the one who slabbed it in a capsule forever even if it ends up that way.
Edited by louisvillekyshop
11/19/2020 12:08 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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There are those out there, who will not buy a slabbed ancient coin.
I am one of them. I have a few reasons for not doing so.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Doesn't ebay offer an NGC authentication option "Get an expert opinion of authenticity | Click Here" $10 Also having it authenticated by David Sear] is an option (I don't believe he slabs the coins) $45 https://www.davidrsear.com/certification.htmlI haven't used either though. I would love to know if anyone had an experience of that ebay service. Maybe a new post might be in order. |
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United States
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Travelcoin, oh my God you are right. Now I have seen everything. This world is just blurring so much. Amazon is doing Pharmacy etc. The link below does say pay $10 and they look over the ebay listing for you. Must have some serious disclaimers but again the world changes so much from year to year these days. https://www.NGCcoin.com/expert-review-ebay/ |
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Canada
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Looks like a modern fake to me...
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United States
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The filed edge is a red flag. The eBay/NGC "expert review" would be money well spent imo.
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11/19/2020 11:31 pm
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