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 Posted 01/13/2021  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sold for $125.95
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 Posted 01/14/2021  11:23 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. I bought it.
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OK, draw me a picture as to how this got made. Please.
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Wait until I have it in hand.

What I will say, however, is why I bid so aggressively on this coin. I suspect this involves two coins/blanks. Whether it is overlapping planchets or maybe a planchet with an incomplete punch coming apart in the striking chamber. The photos were pretty crappy, and I am quite excited to see it up close. This error would be so much cooler if the second coin involved making this one could ever be found.

It was definitely struck at the mint, and whether or not "mint sport" was involved might be impossible to tell.

I'll post better photos once I get it.
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I am in the corner with Johnnysprawl. Two overlapping blank planchets struck at same time. One on center, the other off center. The thickness of both planchets "piled up" caused significant design weakness/blank area due to the double thickness preventing the design to be struck up where there was only one planchet layer. The only thing that looks suspicious is that there is some design showing on one side while the corresponding other side is blank. However, it appears that the struck portion is very weak on the one side and gets even weaker as it gets closer to rim area. There may have been some pressure/metal flow from the double planchet strike area flowing to the single planchet area. My opinion is that the strike pressure had to be low in order for my explanation to be valid since coins get struck through off center blanks all the time but rarely look like this.
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ahh....so that's who I was bidding against! well I am glad it went to a good home. looking forward to a full explanation when you receive it SPP.
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I was tempted SPP, but I knew if you were looking at it you would have a STRONG bid in.
Glad you the man!!
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There was a similar one that sold last month...that's two that I missed out on

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1960S-CANAD...43663.l10137

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Note how the obverse on this one is little changed compared to the other one.
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Yes, but you can still see the weakness on the obv by 'Regina' where the two planchets were not overlapping each other (assuming thats what happened).
Its just not as pronounced
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The just posted coin appears to be struck through late stage cap hence the weakness of part of the obverse. Different causes between the two coins.
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Congratulations SPP, it's a great mind bender of a coin.

I think it's either a single strike with 2 planchets or the coin was struck normally, but only partially ejected, then another planchet was introduced and both were struck again, which would make your coin double struck but not the other.

Either way there should be a reverse image of your coin out there, would be amazing if you could find that one as well.
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