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Type 1 Standing Liberty Quarter 1916/1917 Difference

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I have a type 1 Standing Liberty quarter and the date is completely worn off. Where can I get it inspected by a professional, or how can I determine whether it is from 1916 or 1917. The value is IMMENSELY different!
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post pictures here, these guys are good at telling the difference.
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here we go again.....
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This is a sensitive subject for me today as I am virtually certain I spotted a dateless 1916 today on ebay but got outbid at the last second by what I think was the only other person besides me that figured it out! Anyway, check out this thread and it will answer most of your questions.


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I believe it's a 1917, based on the folds a the bottom of the robe and the strength of the shield rivets.
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Definitely 1917. While we'd all love 1916's, the 1917 T1 is nothing to sneeze at! Only a handful of dates are more valuable.
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The rivets on the right side of shield are a big "tell" of the 1917 SLQ. If you can see them: it's almost always a 1917.
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This is a sensitive subject for me today as I am virtually certain I spotted a dateless 1916 today on ebay but got outbid at the last second by what I think was the only other person besides me that figured it out!

Got a link?

jamwins, that is definitely a 1917.
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If I had to guess based on what I've read, I would say 1917. Like posted above, the rivets on the shield are a big tell. But the only thing that I would question is the "spike" in the hair looks like how they describe the 1916?
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Here you go Johnny. I probably would have bid higher if the picture had higher resolution and if it didn't have such ugly black spots.

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Here you go Johnny. I probably would have bid higher if the picture had higher resolution and if it didn't have such ugly black spots.




Type-1-Standing-Liberty-Quarter-1916/1917-Difference Yeah those spots are pretty ugly, but the reverse is a little better. Unfortunately probably severe corrosion.
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Heh, found the listing did you? Still, it would go for several hundred dollars once authenticated. I probably wouldn't have been as upset if I bid at the level I originally planned, but I got cold feet and bid a little lower. Had I lost it at the max bid that my gut said it wouldn't have been as big of a deal. Anyway, this wasn't the first time something like this happened on ebay and it won't be the last. There's always next time! By the way, my interest was to resell it. I'd rather wait and get a higher quality one some day when I can afford it rather than put this in my collection.

I guess I should be philosophical and say that at least that lot went to someone that knew what it was (otherwise no one would have bid that high). Had no one noticed it and someone bought it to hold until silver prices went up then sold it for melt that would be a real tragedy.
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You have a VERY good eye Saruma! I'm not 100% on it, but I think it has a good shot at being genuine 1916, although many of the key diagnostics are masked. It is by far is the strongest detail wise I've seen. I've never seen one in a lot before that had full rims on both sides. Could pull G-4 details on a good day, strong AG on a bad. The real question is how much damage is caused by all that "black death"?


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I guess I should be philosophical and say that at least that lot went to someone that knew what it was (otherwise no one would have bid that high). Had no one noticed it and someone bought it to hold until silver prices went up then sold it for melt that would be a real tragedy.


I'm sure whoever won it will take good care of it.
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Thanks for the compliment Johnny. While I'm still FAR from being a coin expert, I've always had an eye for detail. I used to be a professional biologist before going into business for myself and a big part of that job was trying to tell different species of plants apart by tiny details that often required magnification to even see. Just recently I started to realize that I might be able to use this skill to cherry pick coins that others might miss and then sell them for a profit and make a few bucks on the side.

If I could have seen one other diagnostic character besides the gown I probably would have bid higher, but I've seem some 1917s with a "squished" looking base of the gown so it made me a little nervous (in other words I was 90% sure instead of 100%).
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Definitely hard to be sure with such a dark coin but I thinkthe robe fold on the arm and the bottom of the robe up off of the step leans me towards a 1916.

Was it sold in a lot or buy tiself? What was the final bid?
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