1961-D Lincoln Memorial Cent / LMC Repunched Mint Mark / RPM ?

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DS8888 New Member United States 36 Posts	Posted 10/12/2011 8:16 pm I believe this is an rpm, right? There's a clear vert line inside the D and the lower left corner looks fat. Also looks like the bust has Machine Doubling. What about the date? You can see a line on the left side of the left 1 in pic and something at the top of the 6. Probably md too? Report this Post to the Staff

StJoeBlues Pillar of the Community United States 573 Posts	Posted 10/12/2011 8:29 pm Nice find. Looks like it could be a 1961D-1MM-022. Report this Post to the Staff
DS8888 New Member United States 36 Posts	Posted 10/12/2011 9:09 pm finally, this is my first find! I was starting to get discouraged - got hooked on this in June and have gone through about 8,000 cents- so hopefully this is the first of many more... is there a site that has a listing of all the rpm's with pics? - (where did you come up with 1mm-022? Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 10/12/2011 9:38 pm coppercoins.com/ Search: http://www.coppercoins.com/advsearch.php 1961D-1MM-022: http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=lds You might check to see if any markers match or not? It may be from this die or another one? A closer look might help to see if any markers match? Report this Post to the Staff
DS8888 New Member United States 36 Posts	Posted 10/12/2011 10:44 pm thanks coop, that's a whole lot of info on there. the mm does look like 22. I got the die crack across top of col#12 but the obverse is worn too smooth to know if they were on his head. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 10/13/2011 1:35 pm I didn't have tme for an overlay yesterday, but made one today. It is not from that die. The loaction of the mint mark on your coin is further south than the 022. So it not from that die. ADDED: I checked 034-037 and they are further south than your coin for mint mark loaction. Rechecking the 022 it is close, but images can be shadowed slightly and make the mint mark appear longer/higher/wider. So if you could take an image that is clearer that might help. I have access to another coin from that same die. I'll recheck to see if there are more markers visable. Edited by coop 10/13/2011 2:10 pm Report this Post to the Staff
DS8888 New Member United States 36 Posts	Posted 10/13/2011 2:24 pm I've got a die scratch on the vest just like shown in the MDS of 1mm-023 on coppercoins. the reverse also looks to have a die crack in CENT running from the lower tip of the C over to the E about 1/4 way up from bottom Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 10/13/2011 2:49 pm 023 has an east mark that your coin doesn't have. It could be that one. Here are a few die scratches on an example I have in my collection that you might check for as markers for 022: https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...arkers_1.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...arkers_2.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...arkers_3.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...arkers_4.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...arkers_5.jpg If you coin is in the same die state, you might be able to see any of these markers. The die crack on the 12th column is very common. We started not even using them for markers because of it happening a lot of times of different dies. Check to see if any of these markers match? Report this Post to the Staff
DS8888 New Member United States 36 Posts	Posted 10/13/2011 3:25 pm i don't have any of those 5 markers that I can see anyway- not saying they weren't there and have been worn off... I'm working on getting some clearer pics of both sides and will put them up Report this Post to the Staff
dbrablec Pillar of the Community United States 1944 Posts	Posted 10/13/2011 3:43 pm wow. (coop) how intricate your analysis of that coin. I can only imagine the degree of patience and dedication. I dont think I have any degree of either, that allows me the insights you represent. you are "yoda" in my opinion Report this Post to the Staff
DS8888 New Member United States 36 Posts	Posted 10/13/2011 8:41 pm ok, I got closeups with my canon1300 through a 14x loupe. First group is the date: These are of the vest with arrow at what I thought looks like the scratch shown on 1mm-023 marker pics even though your right the mm doesn't look the same: These are of IGWT: These are of the reverse USOA, monument corners, and Cent. Note the pic of CENT with what I think is a die crack running above the lower tip of the C over to the E: Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 10/14/2011 09:33 am Re-checking my example the mark pictured on the bust is there on my example. It is weaking with the later die state. So your coin is 022 in an ealier die state. Thus why the markers don't match. The reverse dies can be changed out when needed. But yours is an earlier example. I tried the overlay with the new image provided, but it was so close, that I figured it had to be an image issue from the two different setups/cameras/lighting. So it is 022. Report this Post to the Staff
DS8888 New Member United States 36 Posts	Posted 10/14/2011 10:51 am Ok thanks - I know you spent a lot of time on this, and thanks again for the link to your search tool on coppercoins. I'm seeing quite a few varieties on there that are not listed in the books a have been using as a guide of what I'm searching for. Report this Post to the Staff
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1961-D LMC RPM?