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I just won an auction for a 1932D Washington. From the pictures I'm going to say it is between a G-VG. I picked it up pretty cheap. I wish I had the ability to post pictures so I could get some feedback.
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 Posted 10/13/2011  01:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
you should be able to post pictures, or you can post a link to the auction.
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Well, just check that 'D' very carefully. Some fakers have gotten very good at attaching it onto lower grade 32s. I've see a fake that was barely caught at even a 10x loupe. It's supposed to have a "certain shape", but wear on G coins can genuinely distort that shape enough to not be a reliable indicator, one way or the other. I've bought two 32d lower grade coins on ebay a few years ago in separate auctions. One of them I currently believe to have been duped, and it's extremely hard to tell.
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I agree about checking the mint mark. Once the coin arrives do a lot of research on what the mint mark should look like and exactly where it should be. If it is fake you want to figure it out quickly so you can get your money back. Wait too long and you may lose out on ebay protections.
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Yeah, I'm going to have a friend who owns a coin shop look it over for his opinion also. He is really knowledgeable about numismatics, and I trust his opinion. Thank you for the input and advice. As for posting pictures, I am not that advanced in the use of a computer yet. Actually I haven't spent the time to try and figure out how to link the ebay listing to the thread. I may try to later this evening.
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Why in the world would you buy a raw, key date coin from ebay (well known for fakes, problem and cleaned coins) when you friend owns a coin shop? These are not rare and you can find them most anywhere. I'll bet your local shop as at least 2 or 3 of them.
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Yeah, I'm going to have a friend who owns a coin shop look it over for his opinion also. He is really knowledgeable about numismatics, and I trust his opinion.


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Why in the world would you buy a raw, key date coin from ebay (well known for fakes, problem and cleaned coins) when you friend owns a coin shop? These are not rare and you can find them most anywhere. I'll bet your local shop as at least 2 or 3 of them.

EXACTLY.
If your FRIEND owns a coin store, why would you even consider ebay?
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You could post the auction number...no skills needed for that...there were a lot of 32-d's sold in the last couple of days..one that was listed as a "D" but had an "S" on it

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-D-KEY-...em27bf0662fe
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Why in the world would you buy a raw, key date coin from ebay (well known for fakes, problem and cleaned coins) when you friend owns a coin shop? These are not rare and you can find them most anywhere. I'll bet your local shop as at least 2 or 3 of them.

he actually said he got a pretty good deal on it, depending on what the deal actually was it might have been worth the chance. It really disappoints me when people come out and speak so negatively on this site. If your opinion is negative then by all means share it, but there is no need to come across as mean.
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"when buying key date coins I would rather go to a coin shop and buy a coin I knew wasn't a fake then take a chance on an ebay auction"
would have worked just as well and kept people reading what you have to say. A lot of the times I skip over certain peoples posts because they almost always come off very negative, and I don't want to sit there and read all that
good luck and hopefully you can get a quick link up soon.
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It only sounded mean because you interpreted it that way. It was just a question my friend. You're new here and don't know me very well if you think I was "mean". I'm very easy to get along with.
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It only sounded mean because you interpreted it that way. It was just a question my friend. You're new here and don't know me very well if you think I was "mean". I'm very easy to get along with.

Now that is an opinion and may or may not be true.
I thought his comments about you were funny since he complained about what you said and ignored me completely and I agreed with you and added more.
I feel left out from his scorning. Makes me feel ignored.
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Poor Carl...you missed out on a nice scroning. Maybe we can toss in a nice scorn post with a hint of berating just for you.
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 Posted 10/13/2011  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add googoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
maybe it just takes 7,000 posts to be one of the cool kids on the block around here
I figured I didn't need to point you out too, but I just thought there were easier ways to go about telling someone something.
this is supposed to be a learning site
I guess you guys are people who teach by yelling instead of teach by showing and telling and gaining understanding
oh well. No hard feelings you guys have helped me out a ton, I just think the sarcasm and way you guys say some things might turn some people off who are just trying to understand
Good times
anyways back to people talking about the post
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Actually I haven't spent the time to try and figure out how to link the ebay listing to the thread


If you know how to cut and paste, you can give us a link to the ebay auction that way... or you could just give us the auction number and we could look it up.
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googoo,

when someone titles their post " ebay purchase- I'm crossing my fingers!", many of those posts end badly when the buyer finds out the coin is fake/altered. I am not saying this one will end that way, but I have seen dozens of posts with a bad outcome. You may call me cynical but I call it being realistic.

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he actually said he got a pretty good deal on it

That "good deal" will look like a bad deal in a hurry when a buyer finds out it is a 32P with an added D mintmark. Buying raw key date coins on ebay is very much a crapshoot if you are not well-versed in authentication and identifying diagnostics.

Based on the title of the post, I assume that the OP falls into that group of less-experienced collectors. It was also made clear that the OP has a good friend at a coin shop which is a relationship that should not be ignored. If you have a trusted shop, your chances of getting a bum coin are almost nil and paying a little extra for a coin that is guaranteed to be genuine can save you alot of hassle in the long run. Sure, it is assuring to get the opinion of the shop after the coin is purchased on ebay but one must learn that you cannot use a coin shop as your own personal ebay coin authentication service. That is a sure-fire way to anger a shop owner over time as they have nothing to gain since they are continually examining coins that they did not make any money on. Repeated behavior like that can and will get you banned from a shop and a collector will be worse off in the long run.

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A simple
"when buying key date coins I would rather go to a coin shop and buy a coin I knew wasn't a fake then take a chance on an ebay auction"
would have worked just as well and kept people reading what you have to say.

I would never phrase a statement that way because I feel confident enough in my skills that I could could buy the right raw 1932D or S from ebay. However, my skills do not apply to anyone else, especially an inexperienced collector, so a statement must be geared towards that inexperience. I would always recommend that an inexperienced collector pay a visit to their local trusted shop first before dropping upwards of $100 or more on ebay.

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It really disappoints me when people come out and speak so negatively on this site. If your opinion is negative then by all means share it, but there is no need to come across as mean...I guess you guys are people who teach by yelling instead of teach by showing and telling and gaining understanding

You are reading way too much into posts, there has been nothing mean posted here at all. Trust me when I say this with all sincerity, this is probably the friendliest coin forum around. If you want to see mean, hang out at the PCGS Collectors Universe forum for a while and you will soon learn the true meaning of "getting flamed". That place is literally a shark tank where newbies dare not tread.

Many posters speak from experience and that experience includes seeing many new collectors getting burned over the years and they come here posting about their bad purchases. What you see as "yelling" is merely attempts to help newbies avoid the pitfalls of a hobby with a very steep and financially dangerous learning curve. However, we are also not here to hold your hand and mollycoddle you. We want people to learn and gain experience but occasionally someone comes by who has no interest in learning so they keep repeatedly asking the same questions over and over, a sure sign of informational abuse, for the sole purpose of their own financial gain. I thoroughly enjoy educating people that truly want to learn but I do not really have much use for the other type.

Obviously, I feel that you are in the group that wants to learn otherwise I would not have just spent 45 minutes typing War and Peace here My advise to you googoo is to lighten up a little and not take little bits of electrons so seriously, you cannot read someone's emotions on a forum so you have to take the emotional aspect out of it and just enjoy yourself and soak up the knowledge
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thad and carl, you are both mean insensitive bullys and should be ashamed of yourselves. Meanies.

Seriously though, if it was a good enough deal, and the seller had a good record and a return policy, I would certainly buy on ebay. Regardless of wether a friend owned a coin shop or not.

Again I will say this. The whole ebay is heck and nothing but evil resides there thing IS a bit old. I have purchased a LOT of items there, and only on issue which was settled immediately and to my complete satisfaction. Plus buying from me is safe. not that I have any 32Ds up, but if I did... LOL A little bit of research and some common sense go a long way.
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