If A Coin Has AU Details, But Not High AU Details

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coinguybrian Rest in Peace United States 5375 Posts	Posted 10/17/2011 11:00 pm why does NGC nearly always slap it with XF details? The problem label is bad enough, sheesh. Seems like unless its really strong __ details they drop it a grade down on top of the problem modifier. But isn't that the whole point of 'net grading'...to put the ACTUAL details grade net whatever rather than arbitrarily dropping it? seen the same thing with lower XF coins graded 'VF details'. Report this Post to the Staff

hesgut Pillar of the Community 1028 Posts	Posted 10/17/2011 11:28 pm The difference between high AU details and low AU details is very tiny. The amount of wear required to get to an XF isn't that much. The high AU grades vs. the low AU grades are usually coins that are very close in amount of wear, but have more major differences in luster present. "net grading" has nothing to do with it. Don't know what you mean with the VF/XF point and haven't really noticed that either. I see more actual VFs the are net graded XF versus the other way around. Report this Post to the Staff
coinguybrian Rest in Peace United States 5375 Posts	Posted 10/18/2011 06:39 am I mean that while ANACS has a net grading system, NGC doesn't. I think they should just state the actual details grade if they're not going to net grade it instead of dropping the technical grade on top of the problem modifier. On a cleaned coin which loses its luster anyway, its a bit redundant to drop it to XF because it 'lacks luster'. I had a very expensive capped bust half that I posted for grading here, and it was almost universally graded Au-50-53. The coin had been toned in an envelope some time ago, but never cleaned (no hairlines or excessive shine). Comes back cleaned. Not only that, but XF details not AU details like it should've been at a minimum. Can really hurt when they find some supposed 'problem' and drop the grade on top of that when there's a big price difference between grades. Report this Post to the Staff
hesgut Pillar of the Community 1028 Posts	Posted 10/18/2011 3:26 pm Yeah, I see what you mean now. It wouldn't make any sense to punish the coin twice over. You don't actually know that is what has happened however. The grader may have just thought the coin had XF details? Slightly off topic....there's just something about the bust and seated design on dimes, quarters, and halves, that make it difficult to determine if they've been cleaned if the grade is less than BU. All of them look a little cleaned to me even if they weren't? The ones that were in fact cleaned have mostly retoned to look almost like the rest. Report this Post to the Staff
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