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1873 Silver Liberty Seated Dollar?

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 Posted 10/18/2011  12:31 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Intmd8rBlk3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Does anyone know anything about this coin? It has an arrow on either side of the date on the front. There are no mintmarks on it. I know the one with the "CC" mark is rare but what about the kind with no mark? Any help would be greatly appreciated....thank you.

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 Posted 10/18/2011  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cd_god to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to be Xf condition but the split rim may be a sign of a cast copy.
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 Posted 10/18/2011  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Intmd8rBlk3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another thing is that when I "flip" the coin over to the back, it's upside down instead of right side up.
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 Posted 10/18/2011  12:49 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's fake. Arrows are a dead give-a-way. Rims show signs of casting.

No Liberty Seated dollars had arrows at the date.
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 Posted 10/18/2011  01:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rjkingston to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BH1964 got it right. Obvious fake, said it out loud before I scrolled to read other comments. Non-existent variety (arrows), casting on the rim, obvious 'soft' details on the strike in a way not seen from a warn die but a fake casting. Motto ribbon is almost gone, field below the eagle has major problems.....list could go on.

Sorry for bad news. Make sure to educate all you can though.

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10/18/2011 02:56 am
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 Posted 10/18/2011  02:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fake ... Weigh it and compare to the weight cited in the Red Book. Likely, it's underweight. Rjkingston is on target here.
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 Posted 10/18/2011  06:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, definitely fake.
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Thanks everybody! I guess it goes in the trash!
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I'd keep it. Even the fakes are kinda cool, just don't let anyone be fooled by it. Mark the holder appropriately.
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 Posted 10/18/2011  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffrose to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't trash it. Make it a pocket coin so it will remind you on a daily basis "caveat emptor". Also, it will have a nice worn look after ten years or so.
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 Posted 10/18/2011  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please don't trash it. Weigh it and put that number on a 2x2. Use it to educate fellow collectors, take it to club meetings, write about it, whatever. I bought a cheap one, myself, simply to do these things. Collectors need to be more wary in today's market, and such hands-on learning is one way to wave the checkered flag.
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 Posted 10/18/2011  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, keep it. It has value as a teaching piece as others pointed out.
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 Posted 10/26/2011  02:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seateddime48174 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well, at least now you can say you have a coin from china in your collection !
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 Posted 10/28/2011  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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well, at least now you can say you have a coin from china in your collection !


This is a NON-coin ... Good point, otherwise. I can't help but wonder when and if these replicas will start appearing in the dollar stores here!?
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 Posted 10/28/2011  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saruma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One easy check that will catch the really bad fakes like this is simply to look up the coin in your RedBook. If it isn't listed in there assume it doesn't exist. Sure, there are certain error coins not in that book (although a bunch are), but if it was a regular issue it will be there.

That is only step one in identifying a fake, but it is a good start.
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10/28/2011 12:50 am
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 Posted 10/28/2011  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seateddime48174 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the chinese fakes are showing up everywhere. unless you are very familiar with the Seated dollar and Trade dollar die characteristics... stay away from them.
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