Strange Sovereign Characters | Jeweller Replica Sovereign

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maxamoeba New Member United States 6 Posts	Posted 10/22/2011 5:22 pm Hello everyone, new here so please bear with me. I have a 1911 Royal Mint gold sovereign with a strange marking on the obverse. The marking is raised as if it were part of the die used to create the coin. It is situated vertically behind the bust, rather large and is comprised of three characters. either M_M or W_W depending on how you view it. The center character while clearly struck is unidentifiable and may be two characters instead of one. I have clear pictures if this would help and verification that the coin is indeed a gold sovereign. Please help if you can. I have spent many hours trying to identify this and believe it to be a rarity. Thank you Identified - moved to British Coins forum - Sap Report this Post to the Staff

Peter THOMAS Pillar of the Community Australia 2830 Posts	Posted 10/22/2011 11:48 pm never seen anything like it. Please may we have: a pic of the other side; weight (grams); and diameter (mm) Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16816 Posts	Posted 10/23/2011 03:51 am I believe it says "M 21 M", with the "21" in Arabic numerals. It is a MIddle-Eastern jewellery replica, presumably made of 21k gold. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
maxamoeba New Member United States 6 Posts	Posted 10/23/2011 06:20 am Thanks for the interest. Weight: 7.98 grams on my pocket scale Diameter: is the same as all my other sovereigns so 22mm If it helps at all this was part of a small lot I bought from a lady who had gathered them while living in Cairo. One has a 21K bank puriy stamp,another is from Perth and one from the Pretoria Mint SA. Here is a shot of the flip side. Report this Post to the Staff
maxamoeba New Member United States 6 Posts	Posted 10/23/2011 06:34 am Thanks SAP, that makes sense considering where I obtained it. So this is considered a round and not a coin since it is not legal tender from a Government mint? And not at all rare either. My hopes are shattered Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16816 Posts	Posted 10/23/2011 10:44 am "Rounds" generally don't imitate the weight, size and fineness of genuine coin designs. It would be considered a "replica". Without the jeweller's mark, it would be considered a "counterfeit". Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
maxamoeba New Member United States 6 Posts	Posted 10/23/2011 12:04 pm Thanks for your help yu may have saved my sanity, good thing I got it for spot as it seems to be worth only it's weight in gold. I have to say though, it seems like a lot of effort and cost to make a replica and then to mar it's appearance with such a large mark for use in jewlery. Genuine sovereigns are not THAT rare. Report this Post to the Staff
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