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Bing Pillar of the Community United States 4253 Posts	Posted 10/30/2011 8:07 pm You know, bobbyhelmet is right. I know how to look up these coins even though I'm not always correct. Before I give you my attribution of a particular coin, see what you come up with first. This will give you some practice. So far, you're doing pretty good. JW Report this Post to the Staff
jessvc1 Pillar of the Community United States 2596 Posts	Posted 10/30/2011 8:16 pm Constantine I. 313-315 AD. Follis. London. CONSTANTINVS PF AVG, laureate, cuirassed bust right / SOLI INVIC-TO COMITI, Sol, radiate, standing left, chlamys across left shoulder, holding globe and raising right hand. S-F across fields. Mintmark PLN. RIC VII London 13 I cant find a mintmark AS or RS but ill keep checking, it looks alot like this coin-this is for the constantine on the 2nd page. Edited by jessvc1 10/30/2011 8:30 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jessvc1 Pillar of the Community United States 2596 Posts	Posted 10/30/2011 8:18 pm yeah I will look these up and if you need to correct me let me know thanks Report this Post to the Staff
jessvc1 Pillar of the Community United States 2596 Posts	Posted 10/30/2011 8:28 pm http://department.monm.edu/classics...valen023.jpg ok this is what I can find so far but I still cant make heads or tails of the legend-now to find the year this was minted. I'm not done doing research I still have to look around and see if this is the exact coin which I still kind of doubt. AE3 Obv: DNVALENSPFAVG - Diademed bust right, draped and cuirassed. Rev: GLORIAROMANORVM Exe: SMH(officina) - Emperor walking right with head turned back while grasping bound captive at the top of the head with right hand and holding a labarum-this is for the last coin I posted. Edited by jessvc1 10/30/2011 8:30 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jessvc1 Pillar of the Community United States 2596 Posts	Posted 10/30/2011 8:34 pm OK I change that here is what I think it is. ROMAN EMPIRE - Valens (364-378 AD) AE 3 Obv: DN VALENS PF AVG - Diademed bust right, draped and cuirassed Rev: GLORIA ROMANORVM - Emperor walking right with head turned back while grasping bound captive at the top of the head with right hand and holding a banner AD 367 = RIC IX, p. 146, 5b; Cohen 11, Edited by jessvc1 10/30/2011 8:35 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Bing Pillar of the Community United States 4253 Posts	Posted 10/31/2011 1:02 pm I think attribution for the Valens coin is about as close as you are going to get it. RIC 5b, Siscia looks about right. It is a very common coin. I have cleaned a ton of these over the years. Some in better shape then yours and some in worse shape. Very good. Congrats Report this Post to the Staff
Bing Pillar of the Community United States 4253 Posts	Posted 10/31/2011 1:09 pm Quote: Constantine I. 313-315 AD. Follis. London. CONSTANTINVS PF AVG, laureate, cuirassed bust right / SOLI INVIC-TO COMITI, Sol, radiate, standing left, chlamys across left shoulder, holding globe and raising right hand. S-F across fields. Mintmark PLN. RIC VII London 13 I cant find a mintmark AS or RS but ill keep checking, it looks alot like this coin-this is for the constantine on the 2nd page. Take another look. Bobbyhelmet said he would tell in you in 24 hours if you didn't have it by then. The above is wrong, so try once again if you have the time. JW Report this Post to the Staff
bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 10/31/2011 9:31 pm I think it is the field marks that have confused you with this coin and perhaps lead you down the wrong paths. I can see how you could have mistaken the left field mark for an 'S' - it is in fact a 'C'. There is damage below the 'C' that makes it look like it could have originally been an 'S'. The right field mark is an 'S', I'm not sure how this has been assumed to be an 'F', perhaps the confusion with the left field caused this. The 'C S' combo was only used in Arles and Rome, your mintmark is 'RS' so your coin is 'Roma Secvnda' or Rome Workshop No 2. The 'C S' perhaps stands for a motto like 'Claritas Saeculi' ('Brightness of the Age') but its main use is as a series identifier to differentiate issues. Your Bust is 'right facing, laureate, draped, cuirassed, from front'. You can just see the cuirass on his shoulder, under the drapery, the position of both his shoulders tell us the bust is 'from front' rather than 'from rear'. We must also take note of the legend break on the reverse 'SOLI IN-V-ICTO COMITI', this legend break was only used in Rome (apart from a few Arles issues). All of these factors are import when IDing this type of coin and can quickly help to rule out incorrect mints. Your (rather nice) coin is: Constantine I IMP CONSTANTINVS PF AVG - Right facing, laureate, draped, cuirassed, from front. SOLI IN-V-ICTO COMITI - Sol standing left, facing left, chlamys across left shoulder, holding globus in left hand. C S / RS Rome - Workshop 2, minted 315-316, Rarity C3. RIC VII Rome 40. Its all trial and error and we all learn form our mistakes - Out of interest what resources are you using to ID your coins? Edited by bobbyhelmet 10/31/2011 9:33 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jessvc1 Pillar of the Community United States 2596 Posts	Posted 10/31/2011 11:16 pm thanks I didnt read that part of the attribution, I had too many coins that I was trying to attribute and I think that one at a time is a better speed. I was just searching the legends and seeing what was popping up and trying to put an answer there for you guys as fast as possible. but I think classical coins, forvm, and wildwinds came up a few times as well as ebay coins. Report this Post to the Staff
jessvc1 Pillar of the Community United States 2596 Posts	Posted 10/31/2011 11:18 pm oh yeah and I was trying to put them on omnicoin too. I think I got a few attributions wrong and I have so many ancients that is the reason I never put them on because they are hard to attribute for me. http://omnicoin.com/collection/jessvc1 Report this Post to the Staff
jessvc1 Pillar of the Community United States 2596 Posts	Posted 10/31/2011 11:22 pm We must also take note of the legend break on the reverse 'SOLI IN-V-ICTO COMITI', this legend break was only used in Rome (apart from a few Arles issues). All of these factors are import when IDing this type of coin and can quickly help to rule out incorrect mints.---see this is something I would of never caught on to. thanks I learn so much from you guys. Report this Post to the Staff
bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 10/31/2011 11:30 pm This is an excellent quality London Sol, I'm a bit jealous as I collect these - Nice find http://omnicoin.com/coin/924569 I'll link to some better attribution resources tomorrow, its late here now so need to log-off, there are about 6 or so sites that are excellent and with them you will be able to quickly ID all your later coins pretty easily and accurately. I think we really need to ask a mod if we can have a couple of 'stickys' for links and attribution as it would be a good idea to get them all together not in a lot of different threads. Report this Post to the Staff
jessvc1 Pillar of the Community United States 2596 Posts	Posted 10/31/2011 11:38 pm thanks bobby I'm jealous I cant live in the Uk haha Report this Post to the Staff
jessvc1 Pillar of the Community United States 2596 Posts	Posted 10/31/2011 11:48 pm I like that Constantine also but because of the paint job it looks kinda fake in hand and better in pics under the right light. Report this Post to the Staff
bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 11/01/2011 4:59 pm Attribution links: ID:http://www.romancoin.info/ I think this is the best page on the net for attribution. An inscription search at the top and Helveticas tables at the bottom. Helveticas tables are by far the best attribution tool for 3rd and 4th century coins. You will need MS excel and to know a bit about spreadsheets but once you find the one you need and download it you can ID coins in minutes by filtering the columns. No pictures here but the info is pretty much 100% correct. ID:http://wildwinds.com/ Another good site with lots of pictures - good if you know the emperor but cant make out the reverse, lots of example to look at. I have found a few attribution errors lately though - still a great site but confirming RIC numbers is a good idea. Dont forget to hit the 'Browse the X page with thumbnail images' option at the top of the page. ID:http://www.ancientcoins.ca/RIC/index.htm Not very complete but quite a nice setup. ID:http://www.tesorillo.com/aes/home.htm Lots of info here covering 317-498AD. ID:www.dirtyoldcoins.com Again a good resource but the site does not seem to be working for some reason. Pricing: ebay is your best tool for this. Coins are only worth what people are prepared to pay for them, 1000s of auctions end every day and the market shows us the price. Rare coins often sell low and common ones high, the buyers put the values on the coins not price guide books. Report this Post to the Staff
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