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In a few years, Norway (and undoubtedly several other countries) will release a coin with denomination 20 and date 2020. Certainly something for a collector with 20/20-vision.

I suddenly started wondering if this kind of thing has happened before. Anyone here familiar with an 18 something from 1818? 17 something from 1717? 16 something from 1616? I kind of doubt a 19 something from 1919 exist, I have never seen a 19 anything, and the more eccentric demoninations tend to be older ones. 15 something from 1515 is not out of the question, though, at least as far as I know. But so far I haven't found any of these. Anyone able to help me?
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Surely somewhere there must have been a 2000 2000 coin, banknotes for sure, but places like Paraguay and Chile have high denominations!
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 Posted 10/24/2011  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't recall any "17 somethings" or "19 somethings" coins. Such large prime numbers aren't likely to occur naturally in a monetary system. The only "18 somethings" coin I'm familiar with is the 18 piastres from British Cyprus, and Britain didn't own Cyprus in 1818. So 1616 and 1515 are your best bets.

For 16, you might have better luck if you allow for 1/16th coins, as well.
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In the Late Roman Empire a very rare denomination was issued known today as the
'1 1/2 Scripulum' which according to David Sear, bore no convenient value relationship to any other coin.

It was valued at 9 siliquae, where 24 silver siliquae equalled the value of a Solidus. The tremisis, or 1/3 of a Solidus, was current at this time and the rarer semisis, valued at 1/2 of a solidus, was also current.

One wonders, if a 1 1/2 scripulum was issued, what about a 2/3 of a 1 1/2 Scripulum? Such a coin would be valued at 6 siliquae or 1/4 of a Solidus, but it was never issued.

I can only guess that such a coin would have been a 'Quadrensis'


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 Posted 10/25/2011  04:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Litotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I can't recall any "17 somethings"


Funny you should say that. I bought a 17 kreuzer 1762 from Austria quite recently. Or to be precise, an XVII kreuzer. I would definitely accept an XVII from 1717, but - alas - the Austrians seem to have neglected this denomination at the time.

As for 18, I have in my collection 18 deniers 1788 Geneva and 18 groszy 1668 Poland - in addition to the Cypriot one. You would be surprised at the strange denominations out there to be discovered if you have a special interest for such things - as I do.
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In the Late Roman Empire a very rare denomination was issued known today as the
'1 1/2 Scripulum' which according to David Sear, bore no convenient value relationship to any other coin.


Great story! Thanks for sharing

As for 1½, it has been an infrequent denomination throughout the years, but I have three of them in my collection, in addition to a fourth in a slightly different category. The are:
1½ pence 1834 Great Britain
1½ pfennige 1835 Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (German state)
1½ pfenning 1740 Münster (German state)
½3 gulden 1696 Friesland (Dutch state - value 1½ written in truly original fashion - I know of no other coin with this kind of denomination)
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That's a fun idea! How about a 24 Skilling from 1824? I guess that's not exactly it...

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DVCollector, 24 skilling 1824 was not exactly what I had in mind, a repetition of denomination in the last two digits only is not especially uncommon, but I actually miss this coin in my collection. Is it for sale anywhere?

After a search I did in fact succeed in finding a 17 from 1717. But it is not something I will add to my collection soon. 17 ducat 1717 from Saxe-Gotha-Alterburg had a total mintage of 6 (!). A large gold coin, approximately 300 years old, with mintage of 6? Gee, it sounds cheap.......This coin is so rare Krause does not even have a picture of it. Too bad, would be fun to see.
http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/Wo...oinid=410545
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 Posted 10/26/2011  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A gold 17 Ducat struck with a Thaler die? That must be huge--and a museum piece!
Litotes, I took that picture from the auction house Ha.com; I wish I had that one too--even if it doesn't qualify.
I also looked for an 1818 18-something, but no luck so far.
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