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 Posted 12/26/2006  5:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add realwunder to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers

Just wondering if I could get some help identifying this one. Don't know if it is a token or coin? I've searched for a couple of weeks on the internet but can't seem to find any thing like it. I place this under world coins because it is dated 1773 and I don't belive any coins were minted in America until 1780's. I took about the best photos I could(it is smaller than a dime). Also thought it is a neat coin because of the "All Seeing Eye" on the obverse. Any clues would be great, thanks for your efforts!
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 Posted 12/26/2006  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thingee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sure someone will be along and identify this for you. And WOW!! That's a nice lookinbg item. Very interesting too. I will be looking forward to its identification too.
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 Posted 12/26/2006  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope you don't mind, I brightened up your images a bit. Nice coin, I have been searching the net for about an hour and can't find anything like it.

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 Posted 12/26/2006  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realwunder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Steve Thanks for editing the photos looks much better.
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 Posted 12/26/2006  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, took a bit of finding, but this one is from the German city-state of Nürnberg (normally spelled Nuremberg in English), now part of Bavaria. Yes, that's the same Nuremberg more famous nowadays as the site of the Nazi rallies and post-war trials. Nuremberg was at the time of issuing this coin a Free City of the Holy Roman Empire. The three coats of arms are, I believe, the Empire (top), and the greater (lower left) and lesser (lower right) arms of Nuremberg. The reverse depicts, as you can probably guess, a view of the city, with the All-Seeing Eye above it.

The denomination is 1 kreuzer, as it says below the shields - 1 (N) Kr. The N is presumably for Nuremberg. The coin is made of billon, low-grade silver; billon coins often go quite dark. The catalogue reference is KM#387, CV $3.50 in VG, $25 in EF. With the wear and dints on that one, I'd probably put it somewhere in the middle of the range.
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 Posted 12/26/2006  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realwunder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sap, Thank you for the info. You definitely know your stuff. I have been searching for a few weeks(to no avail) and you answered my questions in a few hours. Also much thanks for the history behind the coin!


Much appreciated,
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darn it SAP LOL.. I saw the The two headed eagle Ans knew what region to check, I actually have a book that will cover this piece . LOL Good Job Buddy
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Welcome realwunder This guy and Many other here , in fact all of the family memebers here are incrediable, You HAve just found What I believe to be The single best source for Numismatics of any type combined in one neat little package, we HAve Authors of coin Books , A guy who made a couple of the dies for the State Quarters, And expert in Medievil, and Ancient coins, A Counterfeit expert , The list goes on and on and on, well you get the picture so stick around and tell your friends, Oh also we Members who cant seem to type the word in correctly (ME)!!
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