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1954 Nickel-Counterfeit Or Error?

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Ok I have this 1954 nickel I found roll searching. I dropped it by accident on the table and it sounded nothing like a regular nickel. It sounds almost exactly like a pre-1982 Canadian nickel, the pure nickel ones. It does not have a ring to it that would indicate copper, and since nickels are 75% copper I am thoroughly confused on this one. Most likely scenario-counterfeit.
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 Posted 11/05/2011  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's a fake it would have fooled me.

Any chance that you can weigh it? Or maybe make a home-made balance to test it against another nickel?
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you should also try and get it's specific gravity, but yeah, nothing indicates fake to me.
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 Posted 11/05/2011  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am seeing a perfectly normal circulated 1954 nickel. There would be absolutely no reason to counterfeit one anyway. Possible it is a wrong planchet but I highly doubt that too.
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 Posted 11/05/2011  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
henning took the time to counterfeit one, and this was around the same time, so I cant see it being impossible.
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If I had a scale I would weigh it, I think I will take it to my coin shop and see if they can weigh it and what they think of it.
See thats the thing, it looks normal but sounds completely different...
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Whats specific gravity?
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this link should help explain(thanks Jbuck!)

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...PIC_ID=39666
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Henning used normal prewar copper-nickel composition planchets, I think. Also the latest date on his dies were 1953 but he made the "Henning" nickels in 1954. They are dated 1939, 1944, 1946, 1947 and 1953.
You could make a homemade see-saw scale with a tongue depressor, some glue and a pencil. and mark the spots with tracing to place two "real" nickels, one on each side once you get it balanced. Then remove one nickel and put the 1954 on.
Normal nickels, all types, are just about 5 grams.
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Sound when dropped is not the best test for determining composition.
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One more thing I just found-there is a thin line or crease running part way around the coin, the line is not too straight but could mean something. Almost as if someone put two nickels together. I will try to get a pic of it.
BTW thanks Adam, if I had a scale I would test that. I'm going to take it to a coin shop and see what they think and if they will weigh it for me.
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Also-coin is NOT magnetic
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So I took it to my coin dealer and he noticed a peculiar sound as well, and the coin weighs 4.8 grams. Sounds fishy to me...
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Ever figure out what the deal was with this nickel?
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Nickel should weigh in at 5grams. There are many possibilities.
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have you compared sound by dropping this nickel with another nickel? maybe at the same time?
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