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 Posted 11/08/2011  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Advise taken to heart, Thanks Ed!
Just brokered a deal with the missus too. Looks like it will be bars for now, 1oz to start the collection off followed by 5g or 10g bars in the future.

Hey, no problem!

The smaller bars would be great but I have to say that the 1/4 oz. Maples would also be great... they really are beautiful coins for sure. Whichever way you go, though, this will be an awesome gift that I am sure he will very much appreciate.

It is also good to have the Mrs. on board with the idea. That will help a great deal as the years roll by.
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 Posted 11/08/2011  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm kind of doing this for my grandson. I've been picking up some junk silver as well as the proofs when the silver price was higher. When silver has come down I just stop at the coin shop and buy silver for the amt of money I have saved. Gold is an idea as well but I don't have that much cash each time and want to buy as frequently as I can.
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 Posted 11/09/2011  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This forum is full of thoughtful parents/grandparents! Let's hope the youngsters turn out to be "worth" the effort :)

My father's starting a RESP for my boy. I'm curious which one of us will do better 18 years later :)
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What's a RESP?

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I suppose it's a Canadian thing then.
RESP = Registered Education Savings Plan. Basically a tax-sheltered savings/investment plan that matures when the kid attends post-secondary institutions. Tax deductible for the contributor (the Canadian gov also contributes a nominal amount each year) so that the income taxes are passed onto the student when the funds are eventually used. And, since student's don't usually have much income, there's a net reduction of taxes for the family as a whole. RESP plans with banks or other companies also pays interest on the savings based on their earnings, usually in the range of conservative mutual fund returns.
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RESP = Registered Education Savings Plan

Ah, OK. That sounds similar to the US 529 college savings plans.

I have a 9 year old grand daughter who has a real brain. There is nothing that this kid could not do if she wanted to and had the training necessary for the job. I can easily see her as a physician, physicist, or other highly trained technocrat. Her parents are doing OK but don't have a lot of money to save for this, so... Grandpa will make sure that this mind and life are developed to their maximum potential. Also have an 11 year old grand son but he is not all that interested in school. Not sure what will happen there, probably some sort of trade school. He loves to work with his hands, take things apart, and make things. I can see him being a machinist or a mechanic. Trade school is good too and if that is what he wants to do, then help will be available.
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 Posted 11/10/2011  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes and now the trades are so overlooked that by the time he gets of age he will be needed to work with his hands! I think part of tjhe problem now with college ed people without out jobs has to do with kids all that not interested inb college going just to go or that parents want them to and really they love working with their hands or something else not college oriented. Everyone isn't meant to be a college person. Not to worry. I'm sure he will do fine!
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 Posted 11/10/2011  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneBowl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh well, looks like it's too late for my input: Pandas! Because, well, bears beat leafs and bars. Ask any kid.
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"higher" education means very little in my books. If my kid don't have a strong desire to get into academics or professional trades like medicine, law, engineering, etc, IMO there's no reason for university. It's true that university training forces one to familiarize oneself with a broader range of knowledge, level up one's reasoning ability and base knowledge so to speak, but talking to some university grads these days do not have me convinced that that's worth $20,000 a year x 3~4. Besides, a there's little that junior level university courses can teach that one can't learn on one's own with some discipline. Better to jump into a trade and learn the life lessons hands on instead of coming out 4 years later waist deep in debt and "over educated"

To go back on topic, this is one of the reasons why I'm stacking coins instead of putting money into an RESP (RESPs are forfeited if the kid don't take any form of post-secondary education). I'm sure my little one will end up in a polytechnic or college if not university, but would much rather just give him the money and the choice when the time comes. Here's the gold, do with it what you will.

Pandas are too collectible, if there is such a thing, in my view. I would much rather share the hunt with the boy as oppose to secretly stacking pandas
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 Posted 11/10/2011  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes you are probably best off to stack gold and silver too!
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Everyone isn't meant to be a college person.

That is a fact but it is also one that many people deny. I would far rather my grand son be a great mechanic who is happy with his work than an unhappy and lousy accountant or whatever. Pressuring kids to do what the parents want them to do rarely ever works very well. What does work is to let the kids know that it is up to them as to what they do for a living and that the family stands behind their decision, whatever it may be.
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I think that this is a cool way to go about saving for a child's future. My friends grand parents put aside money for them in savings bonds back in the late 60's and so when he got married in 1990 he had a nice chunk of change. My nephews were given shares of stocks in the Boston Ma area sports teams as kids.

I like the gold/silver thing. Even if you buy in all kinds of market times you will average out better, then waiting for peaks and valleys to buy.
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Even if you buy in all kinds of market times you will average out better, then waiting for peaks and valleys to buy.

Buying a set amount each month is a "dollar cost averaging" approach where one buys more metal when prices are low and less when it is high. This results in a lower per oz. cost. Many of us on here do just that but we also recognize a good sale on metals when we see it. When that happens, it does not disrupt our regular buying schedule but we do tend to buy more when prices are down, if we can.
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Started the stash with an ounce of gold (a RCM 1oz gold bar, seems appropriate as the boy is born in Canada). Finally came in the mail today, a beautiful bar. The RCM flattened it out more so than the X Suisse bars, so it has a good presence to it. If the boy ends up cashing it all in I hope he at least hangs on to this one bar.

Going to be 5,10,20g bars from here on out, whenever we can afford it.
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Sense you are essentially making a nest egg investment for your son that will be long term at least 15 years I would go with Silver over gold personally. That time frame is well over the projection marks for physical silver drying up and its supply becoming scarce.

As for what to get him, just focus on paying the lowest premium possible.
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