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I just purchased a 2000 Silver Proof Set to replace one I sold a few years ago and it arrived today. I must say, I'm kind of bummed out that the set is already toning. Now, don't get me wrong, I love toned MS coins- but I don't like it when DCAM coins get milky and discolored. The eagle breast on the SAC has a dark orange discoloration and the Washington Obverses are goldening on the bust.

Would you hold onto the set, or move it out?

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Personally, I have no problem with the toning, but if it bothers you then sell it and find a better one. There is no reason for you to keep something that you are not satisfied with. You do not have to justify your decision to anyone.
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Did you not see pictures before you bought it?
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Well, you don't like it or want it, so the answer is clearly to move it out.
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If it bothers you, no point in keeping it. There are plenty of 2000 sets that have fully white coins. I don't know if the volara (the foam part) used in the vintage 1999-2009 type holder contributes to the golden toning, as a precaution I removed all of the coins from the OGP and put them in Air-Tites. I've seen plenty of 1999-2001 silver sets that have golden toning at shows, and some later years, too, probably mostly likely stored in a dealer's hot trunk as s/he travels from coin show to coin show. If your e-Bay seller has a return policy, utilize it. No point in keeping something you'll always be unhappy with.
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You say milky, so I would not call that toning. I know the milkiness you are referring to, and I find it highly annoying too. The gold toning that tends to happen to the State Quarters, that isn't milky, and that I like.
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I put the set under my halogen light set up and looked at it with a lit 10x loupe just to get a better idea.

Every coin had a problem. For the sake of education, mine as much as every one else's, I'll post what I found.

The Kennedy half had that creeping milkiness around the rim and also had a black fiber pressed into the metal in front of JFK's chin. There was a small carbon spot below the date.

Jefferson had two black spots, one in his wig and one on his jacket.

White milkiness all over the liberty and behing Roosies head.

Sac had a orangish discoloration on the top wing of the eagle.

The Mass Quarter's obverse had a pale brownish streakiness that reminded me of a woodie cent. The color almost blends in with the Cameo. The reverse was cloudy and white.

The other quarters exhibited white cloudiness in odd configurations.

The one quarter that is attractive, and would be more so were it not for the white which appears near the mint mark and against the word America, is the Virginia one (the back is cloudy around the rim). The obverser on this quarter has a cognac colored toning on the bust and cheek. If the mirrored fields stayed clean and this toned a little more- this would be a desirable coin.

Any clues as to what probably happened to this set? I'm sending it back and getting a "perfect" one. So I'm covered. I just want to know what to do to avoid this.
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For proofs that have gone milky but are otherwise too good to get rid of, you can fix them. I know, kids, don't try this at home but it can be done safely. I did a one second dip in eZest with the following results:
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Absolutely the same coin. One second only then massive rinse in clear water. If not all gone do one more second and rinse again but stop there because if two seconds doesn't work it is as good as it gets. Also, silver and nickel only, do not ever dip copper.
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