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Elements Used for Coins and Medals
Aluminium
Antimony
Carbon
Chromium
Cobalt
Copper
Gold
Hafnium
Iron
Lead
Magnesium
Manganese
Molybdenum
Nickel
Niobium
Palladium
Platinum
Rhenium
Selenium
Silver
Tantalum
Tellurium
Tin
Titanium
Tungsten
Vanadium
Zinc
Zirconium


Alloys Used for Coins and Medals
Acmonital
Aluminium Bronze
Argentan
Barton's Metal
Bath Metal
Bell Metal
Billon
Brass
Bronze
Crown Gold
Cupro-nickel
Dowmetal
Electrum
Franklinium
German Silver
Gun Metal
Manganese Bronze
Nickel Brass
Nickel Silver
Nordic Gold
Orichalchum
Pewter
Pinchbeck
Potin
Silver Alloys
Speculum
Stainless Steel
Steel
Tombac
Virenium
White Metal

Non-metals Used for Currency
Carbon
Clay
Fibre
Glass
Leather
Paper
Plastic
Porcelain
Salt
Selenium
Silicon
Stone
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^^^ lol... That's a nice organized list!

I think the "Maples" series of coins have always been with precious metals? I think maybe the RCM should reserve the "Maples" style for precious metals to avoid confusion.

Though I also think a large size copper "Maple" would look great or some of the other elements. The packaging and detail of the coins and the strike were all really nice. Lots of great pictures in this thread.
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I knew somebody was going to list the table of elements. After I posted the message, I knew I should have made it more clear.

I'll ask again, apart from the following metals,
Aluminum, Chromium, Copper, Gold, Iron, Nickel, Niobium, Palladium, Platinum, Silver, Tin, Zinc

Has the Royal Canadian Mint ever used any other elemental (non-alloy) metals for its coins in its history?
If not, then we are looking at a 12-coin Maple set who's selling price is going to have to be what? $ 5000? :)
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Has the Royal Canadian Mint ever used any other elemental (non-alloy) metals for its coins in its history?


Short answer, yes. Check out some of the patterns in the Charlton Standard Catalogue. The lead 1911 dollar is probably the most famous.
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Some of them would be terrible... Iron=Steel, tin, zinc, Al... usually you try to hide those by plating, except the Al one.

There should be a coin for each species of maple in Canada, which is 10ish?
Copper - 1oz
?Nickel - 1oz
Silver - 1oz
Gold - 1oz, 1/2oz
Platinum - 1oz, 1/2oz
Palladium - 1oz, 1/2oz

Not so sure about the Nickel. I don't think it would strike nice detail.
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Because Canada is a large producer of aluminum I think this would be appropriate. Aluminum coins have been produced elsewhere so I don't see the problem. Yes the coin would be huge and that too isn't a problem considering how big the silver kilo coin is.

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Those proof maples are beauties! I hope to be able to pick up a set some day, even if its the 1oz Silver and 1/10oz gold and platinum. Thanks for sharing!
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Not so sure about the Nickel. I don't think it would strike nice detail.


no way, take a look at canada 50 cent(1968-1982?), they are nickel, so much detail on the coat of arm.

I have a good idea, use 1oz of aluminum to make a coin shaped box, with maple and queen on each side, and put the rest of the 1oz coins in it
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Because Canada is a large producer of aluminum I think this would be appropriate. Aluminum coins have been produced elsewhere so I don't see the problem. Yes the coin would be huge and that too isn't a problem considering how big the silver kilo coin is.


But would AL coins even strike nicely with detail?

Only problem with size is if one thing is too big compared to the others it won't get packaged nicely.
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no way, take a look at canada 50 cent(1968-1982?), they are nickel, so much detail on the coat of arm.

You are right. Nickel can be done nicely, just not too polished. Plus Canada was huge for Nickel, but I think other countries are producing well now.
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Only problem with size is if one thing is too big compared to the others it won't get packaged nicely.


I solved the problem, RCM will be the world first to mint coin-in-coin

i heard the reason why there is no more nickel coin is because nickel cause skin allergy, besides it leaves black mark on fingers
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i thought there is still nickel in coins just plated over. Both Al and Ni are huge in Canada. I wonder how heavy the big nickel in sudbury is.

PlatinumDuck!
Canadian dealers like J&M should still carry the proof fraction variety set (1oz silver, 1/10 gold and platinum). Else there's always ebay, about 3-4 sets listed :)
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Only problem with size is if one thing is too big compared to the others it won't get packaged nicely.

Like I said before, the coins could all be the same width, just change the thickness. The gold coin would be thin, the lead, thinner still as the metal is more dense. The aluminum coin, on the other hand, would be very think.

When all the coins are in the display box, they would all look the same from top-down.
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Because Canada is a large producer of aluminum I think this would be appropriate.


Way off topic here, but I thought it appropriate for the thread. Canada smelts aluminum, from bauxite ore imported from other countries (and now recycled aluminum). Canada does not produce any aluminum ore. Ironically, this is a rare example whereby Canada does not export raw material for smelting or refining overseas...

The RCM has minted aluminum coins for other countries. For example, the 5 Millum coin for Tunisia (1997), the Centavo for Guatemala (1999) and a whole bunch of coins (various denominations and years) for Bangladesh. I have a wonderful 1983 dollar test token (TT 100 series), that was struck in aluminum. It is the size and thickness of a nickel dollar, but only weighs like 5 grams.
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I would love to see a coin a week for the next two to three years or so.
Every coin the same size and image but a different metal, alloy or material.
Same weight and different thickness would be cool.
It would be a very costly set but man would it be nice to look at once complete.
RCM if your reading this put me down for one set but please change the queens image first :-)
If the RCM want to turn a huge profit they will produce this.
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