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New Member
United Kingdom
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Hi all, My first post on this forum.. I collect British military medals, however recently bought this coin. I started researching it a couple of days ago and identified it as a silver rupee of the Mughal empire (Shah Alam II), I think being circa 1778? Can anyone tell me exactly which year this coin is, and which mint? I went down to my local library today but the only valuation book they had was from 1997 so any help there would also be appreciated. It is RY19 (frozen year), and has the crescent mint mark.. it has been fitted with a suspender at some point, attached to the rim in three places, but from what I can see it has not damaged the coin. Diameter is around 26.6mm, can't weigh it due to the suspender. Any help much appreciated. Regards, Paul    Moved to World Coins forum - SapEdited by PaulMcCormick
11/08/2011 4:12 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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My first impression is that the coin is cast, and these issues were struck.
My second is that it is suposed to be a British India, Bengal Presidency. I am not sure of the mint, but it seems to be similar to KM108, and KM117. The writing is off a bit, and not as clear and careful as I would expect. I am n ot an Indian specialist, so this is the best I can do.
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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Appreciate your reply, thank you. Not sure if it is cast, no tell-tale signs of it (in the usual way I could tell a cast medal).. The pictures aren't particularly good, I can try and take some better ones if anyone needs them?
Regards,
Paul
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Hi again,
Are there any Indian coin experts here that have any idea which year and mint this coin is? Or any other information.. Many thanks, Paul
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Ask dmsreedhar in the World coins and Commemoratives section. He can surely help you.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Thanks very much, will do.
Regards,
Paul
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Jordan
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Edited by mass
11/11/2011 11:13 am
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India
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Dear PaulMcCormick, this coin is indeed a Bengal Presidency coin struck at Murshiabad mint. Some one has used that as a locket/pendent, which used to be common practice in India those days. I am trying post your image annotated to give you hint on the mint name as seen on it. Unfortunately, I am unable to convert the image to JPG version, but still I am posting the version I got. Please inform if you are able to view that. Thanks. Image:  20111109_coin1.jpg35.49Â KB Edited by drnsreedhar
11/11/2011 12:53 pm
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Hi, thank you both for your help. The jpg worked fine too thanks.. It's fairly heavy, the rim has small diagonal marks all the way around.. Mass, what was the purpose of the imitation tokens? Are they modern and meant to deceive, like fakes? I'll have to get a copy of coin valuation guide and see what KM99 is worth unless someone has a copy to hand? It was an impulse buy and obviously outside my area of collecting and knowledge so I appreciate all the help this forum is providing.
Regards,
Paul
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Pillar of the Community
India
1995 Posts |
The diagonal marks on the rim signifies oblique milling. This appears to be a genuine coin.
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11/11/2011 3:27 pm
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Nice one, thank you very much for your help.
Regards,
Paul
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Pillar of the Community
India
1995 Posts |
Here is a comparison between the two types of edges.  |
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Thanks for the pic, it is definitely oblique milling then. Is this a rare coin, or encountered fairly frequently? I bought it having not seen it as was described as an Arabic medal.. Will the suspender detract from the value? I'm just trying to gauge whether it should go into a specialist auction, or on that well known auction site e**y.
Regards,
Paul
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Pillar of the Community
India
1995 Posts |
This is not a rare coin. But is not a frequently available one as well. Similar looking coins are there of Farukhabad mint also. (I will post a pic of one Farukhabad coin if available with my image gallery). Both are scarce. Suspender is surely an unwanted attachment. It will marginally reduce price. Coin is more or less in an acceptable condition. So reduction will not be substantial. This coin is considered among the East India Company coins during auctions. Some forum experts may make a better comment about whether it should go into special auction etc. Thanks.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Thanks for the information. I know DNW have coin sales as well as medals, so will probably put it in one of their auctions if any other forum experts recommend it?
Regards,
Paul
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Pillar of the Community
India
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This is a scan of Farukhabad rupee. Please note the difference between the mint names "Murshidabad" and "Farukhabad". Among these, Farukhabad is scarcer.  |
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Posted 11/08/2011 2:45 pm
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