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Harshly Cleaned 1875 Dime

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Many people have said nothing can be done about a harshly cleaned coin.

Yeah...whatever.


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 Posted 11/11/2011  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redlee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you tell us what you did, it looks good.
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You've improved the appearance of the coin,no doubt.It's gone from absolutely ugly to saleable condition.The evidence of the previous cleaning is still there however.
Sellers have been doing this type of "conservation" to increase their profit margin since before you or I were born.
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 Posted 11/11/2011  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
now appears scratched and dipped to death.....
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That's true nickelsguy,but now he has increased it's ebay value immensely,probably by well over a hundred bucks.
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All you have done is remove the toning. The "cleaned" look beforehand were simply interruptions in the natural toning. I concur, now it looks dipped to death. In my opinion, you are not done yet. Now, put it on a piece of manilla paper on a window sill for a month, turn over and repeat for another month, and repeat if necessary. Let that thing tone naturally... If it were my coin, I would have skipped the dipping, and let it sit out to fill in the toning interruptions naturally...
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danlos9551, don't worry about the little bit of dipping. Someone would snap that coin up in a heartbeat.
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Dipping doesn't touch this kind of damage...it wouldn't even remove the toning, and definitely not the scratches...and yes...a lot of the scratches that were there before, are gone...

No question it still looks cleaned, but infinitely better.

I will try to window sill, SPP :)


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So. Ya gonna tell us how you performed that magic?

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No...I just wanted to show it can be done ...

Harshly cleaned coins can be much improved...

the whole taboo surrounding coin cleaning is overdone, IMO...

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So true danlos. A lot of those nice brite whites in ICCS flips. How do you think they still got to look that way after 100 to 150 years.
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Short of mechanical manipulation of the surfaces, scratches cannot just "disappear". So basically it looks like you doctored the coin with microabrasion polishing which is infinitely worse than dipping IMO.
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At work I often dip silver and aluminum in Hydrofloric Acid. It cleans the heck out of the metals. This one time, one second dip, followed by a immediate rinse would clean that coin just as well.
I do advise everyone not to attempt this as you really need to know what you are doing with the chemical(dilution) or you can cause damage to both yourself and the coin.
I have tried it on a few older lower valued coins and the end result is a Blast White appearance. It will remove all toning and dirt almost instantly.
Danlos...did you try this or something simular to this with your coin?
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still looks like an ugly coin that doesn't belong in a collection. Sad cause it is a 75H!
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Nice work. I think if you let it tone in open air for about a year it will be very nice. I'm about 6 months in on a few of my coins and it's quite the waiting game.
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I must say, I've bought a few cleaned and re-toned coins, that were certified as ok by ICCS...that was quite the steep learning curve...

The re-toning is often weird and patchy...like this 1872 A/V ICCS VF20...it shined like a mirror underneath the weird toning...I almost prefer keeping them blast white, rather then keeping them retoned...

but I have to try for myself and see maybe there is a way to do it properly....

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