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Repatriated 1857 Flying Eagle Cent

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I'll get back to the Seated dollar a bit later. Right now, I want to bask in this one for just a little while.

I suck at photographing Flying Eagle cents. Don't ask me why ... SuperDave won't tell me.

It could be the limitations of the camera .. or .. more likely the user. These are the best pictures I could muster. I have to take the picture on a steep angle to even make the coin look like it's metallic and not made of silly putty.

The breast feathers and the feathers at the wing tip are 100 percent. The tailfeathers are weak, and while there's a bit of wear, much of what can be percieved as wear, is due to strike weakness and die state. This die has been beat half to death from coining with no planchet between the dies. The die clashing is evident on the obverse especially. I think this is the "hub of 56" ... not sure yet. The reason I say that is because the serifs on the "F" in "OF" are closed. I wouldn't say that the "O" looks squared inside though.

If Dave wants to give me a lighting tip or background suggestion that would help me to improve the picture quality...I'll shoot some more. It's really a lot nicer than these pictures lead you to believe, though they are definitely a step up from the pictures I had to evaluate it from.

Having had some of my gambles not do so well lately, let's just say I'm real pleased with this one, all the way from Venice, Italy at just 91 dollars "in the door".

Chance


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11/14/2011 2:31 pm
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 Posted 11/14/2011  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Heyyyy...... I can see a "6" under the "7"

A quick bit of research says I don't see a 6 ... There's sure something going on to the right of the 7 at the bottom, as well as to the left of it, so it's not just Strike Doubling.

Do you see what I'm talking about? Here are 2 macro shots of the date.

Chance

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I'm not seeing much sign of wear on the obverse, the weakness in areas is probably strike and perhaps some grease too. Why are the fields on the obverse depressed in areas...perhaps that's grease?
It's not the 1856 obverse type though--for starters, the F in "OF" would have broader, more flared serifs.
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It's lovely coin and I am glad that you were able to bring it back here!

I am wondering if the coin was corroded then cleaned (ages ago) and if that would explain the depressions on the obverse. More likely, it was made with a less than perfect piece of copper because the eagle looks so good. I'm no expert, I'm just guessing.

Very nice coin and the pictures are very good too.
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That's from die clashing. Sometimes our eyes want to see negative instead of positive. There are several varieties of this coin that are "mule" clashes. There's one clashed with a seated half, a Seated quarter .... and a 20 dollar gold piece.

I'm not at all sure how that would ever happen, but apparently it did happen.

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slight obverse misaligned die?
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