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From Cowries To Credit Cards

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 Posted 11/18/2011  2:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Whytlash to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I got an email from the ANA yesterday with that title. Inside it proclaims

‘Change In Money: Cowries to Credit Cards' Named
Theme of 2012 National Coin Week, April 15-21

and it got me to thinking, briefly, about the various items that have been used as 'money' in various cultures throughout history. I thought that it is an interesting concept that something like the cowrie was used as currency, given what we are used to in the 20th and 21st centuries here in the United States. I thought about the large round stones - the Yap, and even tree bark. If you stop for a moment, as I did, it's rather fascinating the things that have been used as money - a thing of value to exchange for other things of value.

What was it about beads, shells, tree bark, and such that held such value for those peoples? Sure, such things are easier to cart around than a cow, but there's got to be more than that because it's more than barter, it's a whole "monetary system".

I know there have been other threads touching on this concept, but I'm curious to know your thoughts on the subject as presented in the email.

Thanks,

Steve
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 Posted 11/19/2011  02:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder what the Boston Tea Party would have done, if they came across Chinese tea bricks?

Actually, New Guinea natives used cowrie shells until after the start of the 20th century.
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I think the items used must have carried a rarity value. I believe that Yap stones were transported from other islands.
Cowrie shells? Perhaps just of a particular color or size.
Tree bark (I'd never heard of that) but I don't think I would have been able to strip just any old tree otherwise anyone could make themselves an instant millionaire!
The users of such items were generally small communities so that would imply a trust in your fellow man. Unfortunately that doesn't happen nowadays, just look at the number of counterfeits!
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I think the items used must have carried a rarity value.

To be a useful and widely accepted form of money, an object has to possess at least one of, and preferably more than one of, the following characteristics:

- be rare - cowrie shells were typically rare in territories far from the sea, like central China;
- be difficult or highly laborious to make or acquire - like Yapese rai stones or Native American wampum;
- be durable - objects made of metal are preferable to something like early Australia's "rum currency";
- be relatively hard to counterfeit - like modern high-tech banknotes;
- be more portable and convenient to use than the alternatives.

The historic trend in the evolution of money has been to favour that last characteristic, portability, more and more. Coins were more portable than cows or metal sticks; banknotes were more portable than coins; electronic money was more portable than banknotes. In fact, electronic money fails all the other tests; portability is its only virtue.
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 Posted 11/20/2011  02:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whytlash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the responses guys. In searching a bit I found reference to the requirements you have listed, and concepts of a monetary system. It's interesting to see some of the different items used as money and it it sometimes difficult to assimilate the value into 21st century thinking.

It seems that portability and ease of use continue to increase in importance. It reminded me of something in a movie I had just watched. In "The Day The Earth Stood Still" - the original - the "Spaceman" was spending the day with young Bobby and Bobby wanted to go to the movies. He asked Bobby if you needed money. Bobby said he had two dollars that his mom had given him but the Spaceman wanted to take Bobby to the movies. He then reached in his pocket and pulled out a small handful of diamonds and asked if Bobby thought they would accept them. Bobby said they must be worth a million dollars. He told Bobby that in some places people use them as money - they're easy to carry and they don't wear out.

It fit so perfectly with this concept. Reading a bit about the fundamentals of money and monetary systems was quite interesting and something I had never given much thought to. But given our financial issues in this country of late it has been a bit more in the forefront.

Thank you for your responses and I hope there will be more on this intriguing subject.

Steve
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