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Seated Liberty Sub-Type Opinion Question For Type Collectors

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One of the reasons for dumping the Dansco 707 album concept was the fact that the slides are dangerous to the coins' surfaces, and the other was because it wasn't "expandable" enough.

Here's the question. Why weren't the later "arrows added" varieties included in the 7070, and don't you think they should be? The first time arrows were added, in 1853 was to signify a weight reduction because of rampant melting of the coins, and the second time they were added in 1873 was to signify once again, a change in weight, back to teh previous weight.

That would basically leave the seated sub-types as "no motto -no arrows at date", "no motto - arrows at date", "with motto - no arrows at date", and "with motto - arrows at date".

I intend to include those in my type set, along with the earliest "no stars" versions of the lesser denominations. I consider those significant enough differences to warrant another "type".

If there's not a hole in the 7070, it doesn't mean it's not an important variety.

Then there's the lincoln cents of 2009, the new union shield design, the newer nickels ... and the 7070 is becoming outdated all too quickly.

I have an old whitman folder, a type set of 20th century coins. It doesn't even include a Kennedy half dollar because it was printed and sold before 1964.

Besides going forward .... what about the earlier federal issues? I'll never complete e type set of US coins if I live to be a hundred, but ignoring a couple dozen types isn't the answer either.

Chance
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11/20/2011 8:10 pm
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I agree with you, Chance. I've abandoned albums and moved to a certified type set. For other sets, I just use vinyl pages with 2x2's. That way I can control which coins belong in a set.
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 Posted 11/20/2011  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cd_god to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I love the no stars versions but have yet to find a decent affordable one of each denomination.

I wonder who approved that design?
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I agree with Chancellor that the Dansco album is lacking in many types which should have been included.

I am eventually going to assemble a type set of the Liberty Seated coins which will have all of the major types as outlined in the Red Book. To house them I am going to use blank pages for each denomination. In addition, for each denomination I am going to include an example showing the reverse for each of the branch mints which struck them. For example the dimes were struck at New Orleans and San Francisco, the quarters, halves and dollars were struck at Carson City, New Orleans and San Francisco so it should be as complete a type set of the Seated Liberty coinage one can assemble. I will probably go with XF/AU coins to have as matched and affordable set as possible.

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The older Whitman album did include all those other types, and the early Federal types. The 7070 was done as it was so it was doable. My type set is the Whitman set which I now have in an old Capital Plastics holder that also includes all the types. I still lack eleven pieces of having the full copper, nickel and silver set. Three Half Dime Flowing small eagle, Bust small eagle and bust heraldic, one dime flowing small eagle, 1796 quarter, Flowing small eagle, bust small eagle halves, Flowing small eagle, bust small eagle, bust heraldic, and seated with motto dollars. If it was a 7070 the only one I would need would be the seated with motto dollar.
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Chance, I certainly agree with you on the "inexpandability" of the 7070. I like the idea of a "Type" set, it just does not go expansive enough. Example Jefferson nickels; There are certainly more than two (1938-Date and War time Silver), I have three to include the "FG" added on 1966 and later. One the Lincoln Cents it's missing the post war (44 to 46?), brass alloy. Standing Liberty quarters have a third type, recessed date (1925-30). Kennedy halves should be separated from Silver clad and regular clad. Don't get me started on the numerous "current" issues of the Jefferson, Lincoln, Sacagaweas, etc... I also agree with the missing earlier types of the others with the date periods of the album.

I also am putting together a certified 7070-type set like nolawer, all slabbed.

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11/21/2011 09:33 am
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