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Ebay Buy It Now Roll? Any Thoughts?

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 Posted 11/18/2011  4:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add grancap74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Okay, I'm sure I am an idiot.
I just haven't seen many Merc. rolls like this before. The paper roll seems right, but am I just being waaaaaaaay to optimistic to even think about this?
Can this ACTUALLY be an actual "older" roll?
Any thoughts (or slapping me to my senses would be greatly appreciated)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/30062190057...t_3919wt_992
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 Posted 11/18/2011  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What makes me nervous about these listings is that the seller is sure to ay "what we have here is what LOOKS LIKE an original roll...blah blah." ... and that smacks of somebody legally covering their backside.

I'd never suck into it. You can still find the old paper rolls, and the bank machines will still function just fine with them, so you could manufacture "what looks like old rolls"

Somebody thought it might be .... so I guess they'll find out.

Chance
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11/18/2011 4:11 pm
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 Posted 11/18/2011  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Then again.......all you have to do is check the feedback ... plenty of folks saying it's a scam, so likely it's a scam.

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 Posted 11/18/2011  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Clue #1- look at all the other rolls the seller has either currently listed or sold, same wrapper. Clue #2- Denver does not and never has had a Federal Reserve bank.
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 Posted 11/18/2011  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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A roll of AG-G junk with shiny MS coins on each end What are the odds Really?

I think that particular negative feedback pretty much says it all right there...
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 Posted 11/18/2011  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grancap74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, I didn't bid. Merc's just have always been one of my top 3 coins and I have been searching a while around here as well as ebay and haven't seen these before. Thanks for slapping me instead of having my wife do it.....again.
I wasn't really thinking there's a 16-D or even 21's, just trying to see if we can upgrade what we have in albums, especially after seeing some of the posts on your collections here. Buying individuals just gets real expensive you know.
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 Posted 11/20/2011  01:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdbarrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't do it! The papers are easily accessible/ cheaply reproduced. Looks like they were hand crimped too.
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The odds are pretty darn good...if you put them there yourself...like the guys who sell these do!
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 Posted 11/20/2011  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinstar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
and what is this?

Mercury Barber Seated dime

barber--seated? what is that?
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 Posted 11/20/2011  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You know, I only looked at the first two pages of feedback. I did not see buyer after buyer saying its a scam. In fact, none really. I did note that most said nothing spectacular; which is what you would expect from your average OBW of any denomination from "back in the day". I did note a few that said they found some really nice coins.

Now if you were a bulk buyer of OBW rolls, wouldn't you occasionally get scammed yourself? And if you truly did not search them yourself then you would inevitably pass along those same salted rolls that had fooled you.

I think it is unfair to say this guy is a scammer. With over 1700 sales in the last year and only two negatives and 34 neutrals, it means that only 2 tenths of a percent of his customers think they got a bad deal. If I had to form my impression of this seller just from this forum, I would think he was in the same league as a Chinese counterfitter. A CAREFUL reading of his feedback says otherwise. I personally am not ready to Slander anyone's character over 2 negative feedbacks out of 1700.

And if you deal on ebay long enough someone is going to be unhappy. It is human nature. Someone is going to buy one of these rolls for 22 dollars and open it and find a bunch of common date 30s and 40s and get ticked off.

Overpriced? Probably. A scam? No, I don't think so.
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 Posted 11/20/2011  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When you see a roll like this remember banks do not mix denominations in their rolling machines. These rolls with mixed denominations are made up by the seller to sell of their old low value stock. They say they don't know what's inside but then they also say it's a roll of such and such. If they haven't opened it how do they know that? These listings are nothing more than scams and a person should not even consider bidding on them.

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 Posted 11/21/2011  02:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This was not a mixed denomination roll. It was a roll of dimes that might have had any dime from the 40s and before. Are we all looking at the same ad? I have seen lots of ads for penny rolls with a dime stuck on the end. There is little doubt those are salted rolls. And I sure would not buy them. But this is not one of those ads.
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 Posted 11/21/2011  08:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grancap74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
jmkendall, What you wrote is exactly why I posted this. Yes, I have seen the thousands of "unsearched" cent rolls but this was the first time I had seen Mercury rolls. I realize most everything on these type rolls is NOT what it seems on ebay, just was curious about what everyone thought on this one. I didn't even know however these papers can still be bought now, which is me being naive I suppose.
Our collection started when receiving it from my grandfather, in that he had 30 crimped rolls of Mercury dimes. All were from a bank in Atlanta and were all mixed with dimes back to 1928. I know these were not created by him as my mother whose over 80 remembers his coins when she was young. So... based on this alone is why I was interested in this stores rolls. Reading the sellers feedback was also not what I expect if he is just "planting" different things. Also, reading through most of the feedback was all about the Cent rolls, only one was from Dimes.
Anyway, thanks for all the input, at least the money was saved so I can purchase something down the road.
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This is a SCAM. Basically someone buys a few thousand $$ worth of junk silver and a tiny number of nice AU/MS coins. They stick the good coins at the end of "original bank rolls" (which of course are obvious modern fakes) and then sucker people into buying them in hopes that they will win the lotto and get an all-MS roll. Obviously, that never happens but even though the auction prices are a TOTAL RIP-OFF these clowns still get positive feedback from the cable TV coin buyer community who bid on these things and don't care what price they pay.

(note that good finds do pop up in junk silver collections - the sellers who crank out these rolls just buy huge lots of silver at face, probably don't waste any time searching it, so occasionally yeah someone finds something good but at no higher rate than if they just bought the junk... and of course a smart seller will seed every 50'th roll with something nice so he gets that "wow I found XYZ amazing coin!" feedback. Similar to the Lotto - state has an 80% profit margin but the occasionally winning tickets keeps people out there buying...)
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11/21/2011 09:06 am
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