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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Just started collecting Large Cents and starting to think a poor choice of anything new to start. After the last 2 coin shows now up to 36 Large Cents out of a possible 64 in my Whitman Year only Album. Those things are all expensive. Unlike coins like Mercury dimes, Buffalo nickels, etc. where there are always some for only a few dollars or even less at times, Large Cents are all way up in prices. Seldom see any for less than $15+. And some are really way up there in prices. Sort of scarry too is how many varieties of some there are so glad I'm on a year only Album. Not sure if I could ever fill that Album especially the first page. I wonder what a all AU set would look like.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The last coin show I went to, a guy brought a Dansco in filled with every large cent from 1793-1857. I left after a couple minutes but the last numbers I heard was something like $10,000.
Some of the varieties do get confusing like the lard date, small letters, and stuff like that. I dont think that I would have the patience to study the differences.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
20753 Posts |
Quote: The last coin show I went to, a guy brought a Dansco in filled with every large cent from 1793-1857. I left after a couple minutes but the last numbers I heard was something like $10,000.
Some of the varieties do get confusing like the lard date, small letters, and stuff like that. I dont think that I would have the patience to study the differences. I don't think that set was EVERY one since there are possibly many hundreds of varieties of those things. Must have been like mine a YEAR only set. And your not the only one with no patience to study all those. I still have no idea what people mean when they say it's a N-3 or something like that. I'm about ready to shelve this set.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Carl . . enjoy the coin, not the folder. It's not always about the complete set. Dump the dansco, put them in airtites or saflips & feel them in hand. They are nice coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Carl, it is possible to enjoy the large cents without worrying about the varieties. When people talk about this being an N or S whatever it is simply a shorthand way of referencing the particular die marriage as identified in the standard references by Howard Newcomb or Dr William Sheldon. An additional identification feature that allows a more specific identification. It is like with the identification of a person. You can say this is a man. This is a 59 year old man. This is a 59 year old man named John Smith. This is John Smith 59 yr old who lives at 123 Sycamore St Kenton NJ etc etc etc. At each stage it becomes more specific and we know more and more about him. It can be the same with the large cents. This is a large cent. This is a large cent in VF. This is an 1803 large cent in VF. This is an 1803 S-257 large cent in VF. This is an 1803 S-257 in VF die state IV with the Cud on the reverse swallowing STATES OF. I will admit that if you don't have the references and aren't familiar with what identifies each die marriage it can be confusing or even boring, but each collector is free to stop at any step along the way in the identification process. The large cents are widely collected by die marriage, (and those of us who collect them that way do tend to babble on about them) but they don't have to be. But it does mean that if a cent is a rarer variety it will probably be identified and priced accordingly. Now it is true that you won't find large cents to be cheap, but how many 160 to 200 year old coins are cheap? And the large cents as date coins do tend to be cheaper than the other denominations from their era. Especially the late dates Compare their prices in VF or XF to other denominations in the 1840 to 1857 range. There are only three rare dates in the set, 1793, 1799, and 1804. (There are some lesser semi-keys but they pale in comparison to the big three. and all can be obtained for under $100 each in low grade.) Those keys, and even the semi keys have availabilities that make things like the 16-D dime look common.
Edited by Conder101 11/22/2011 2:52 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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A lot of good advice given here. I collect large cents and can't afford each and every year nor coins in excellent condition, so I focus on getting what I can when I can.
I've found several holed coins for anywhere from $2 to $5 that would be considered VF to almost AU if it weren't for the hole. Those holed coins need a home too. Some dates, especially those from the 1700's are out of my league, so I'm not worring about getting those. If affordable ones appear then I'll get them, but I'm not concerned about it now. The most I've paid for one is $17 for the 1851. Otherwise most have been purchased for under $10 each.
jeffrose is right ..... enjoy the coin and not the folder / album. I keep mine in 2x2's in one of those long red boxes to I'm not looking at gaps.
I just started collecting large cents less than a year ago and now have 30 different dates in my collection. It's a great set to have, it just takes patience.
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United States
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Sounds to me Carl after reading your other post and this one you are just looking for something else to collect without having a real interest in the subject. You said you have 100 albums that are not filled yet, why not work on completing something, anything before moving on to something new. Have a goal and reach it before starting anything else ? As was said they are not that expensive considering their age, they are not coins from the 1900's. most other older coins are up there in price too. Most lower grade Mid and Late dates can be had for way under 50 bucks. You have 36 now out of a possible 64 and you just started collecting them? I just dont see the problem, you are half way there. A year set is the most logical way to start Large Cents, if you want to go for varieties then you have a huge undertaking on your hands.
Tony
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Quote: Sounds to me Carl after reading your other post and this one you are just looking for something else to collect without having a real interest in the subject. You said you have 100 albums that are not filled yet, why not work on completing something, anything before moving on to something new. Have a goal and reach it before starting anything else ? Must not have read any of my other posts. As to 100 Albums, it is actually way over 100. And almost all are full. For example out of the 12 Mercury dime Albums, only missing 2 of the 16D's to complete all 12 and set #1 is almost all MS grades. With 10 Lincoln Albums, all are complete as to what is required. By that I mean I doctor up some to only contain what I want. Same with many, many other Albums. For the reason of all the varieties in Large Cents I just never got started with those. Possibly only one of the US coins ever made I never collected YET. Regardless, as Conder101 pointed out there are many vaieties and without the Large Cent dictionary, many of the terminologies get lost in the translation.  I'm just to used to a Liberty Head Dime being a Liberty Head Dime and no mysterious N's attached to comfuse the enemy. I'll still try to fill this Album to some degree someday but wow are those expensive. But again as pointed out, many are over 200 years old. Wonder what a Chevy car of that age would sell for. 
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 United States
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Quote: Sort of scarry too is how many varieties of some there are so glad I'm on a year only Album. Like me, I only collect the dates and not the varieties. It's nice to have a type example from each year. To keep it in the realm of affordability, I am doing a G-VG set. Yes, some are costly but, unlike some of my other sets (IHC's, Barber dimes) I will buy the big $ coins later. There is something about old copper, kind of like a fine wine of the Coin World 
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Valued Member
United States
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A have to agree with Vermontensium Old Coppers are like the fine wine of the Coin World.. If you stick to a date set as was said its not a difficult series,and you have a good start already, even if you go back to the early cents, then it gets more expensive but not that bad though. What grades are you collecting ? Yes indeed varieties are many and when buying you would have to attribute them yourself I would think as unless the dealer is a large cent specialist most dealers sell them as they are " large cents" Newcomb's book is great for this. Sheldons also. I've been working on my date set for years now but I go months to years without buying anything so..! I would love to start with the varieties myself but as Conder said its complicated to say the least, but for me dates first. Id rather buy one Large Cent to add to my collection once in a while than be all over the map with my collecting, trying to build sets of any coins has been a failure for me (Kudos to you for building as many sets as you have) the Large Cent is the only series I really want a set of. I'm dabbling in Ikes and Kennedy's too although not a modern coin lover I have fond memories of these coins as a kid and full albums of these have always impressed me. Tony
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