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 Posted 11/25/2013  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bizybackson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The rolling sellouts are good for the series, McHenry and Rushmore might be as much as 22K. It's a real push to get to the full maximum and they've been mostly conservative on inventory since 2011 overproduction.
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 Posted 11/26/2013  03:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SA4H to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Should I wait for the free shipping promotion (save $5) and may risk them sold out or just order now?
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 Posted 11/26/2013  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add havanacoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was wondering the same thing myself.. It's $5
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 Posted 11/26/2013  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you're going to order 2 or more shipping will be free anyway.
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basebal...I made that mistake before as well. 2 or more upgrades to 2 day shipping, but you still pay $4.95.

I am not sure I'd worry about a sell out by Friday...but I also would hate to miss a purchase because I went cheap and wanted to save on shipping. :)
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If you're going to order 2 or more shipping will be free anyway.


Still $5...just expedited

Edited to add: oops, didn't mean to repeat the above posts' message
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 Posted 11/26/2013  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it is the 4.95 no matter how much you order. If the total order is over $300 it is 2 day shipping. I always order over the phone but I assume the same for on line
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basebal...I made that mistake before as well. 2 or more upgrades to 2 day shipping, but you still pay $4.95.


Thats right they just sneak the word free in their and kind of slips your mind.

Come to think of it last time I ordered directly from them was during their free shipping promo
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Ok, so has anyone been paying attention to the Fort McHenry bullion sales? I was reading over on Mint News blog and there are several posts about the price these are getting on the bay.... people are paying $1700 for MS69 bullions... I must have been wrong completely wrong and this is the best bullion coin in 2013..
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I read about that as well on another site. Crazy to me!
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Re: Ft. Henry prices:

69DMPL's are selling for 4 figures...regular 69's and raw coins are normally priced (raw $112, PCGS FS69 $233)

PCGS created "rarity"...
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@fox would you say dmpl Morgan's are a pcgs rarity too? If not what's the difference? Dmpl generally carries a premium and sometimes it's large when it's rare.

That's a stiff gap but you can find much greater gaps with Morgan's for just the dmpl designation.
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Love those DMPL Morgans...SF was great for those

I just have a thing against PCGS and their "create a rarity" habit (yes, my opinion). The process for producing these pucks is basically the same from coin to coin...same mint, same process, same delivery etc.

So one would think the grades from each type would be in line +/- a bit.

2013 White Mtn had around 720 graded...672 were DMPL 69's (highest grade given)..pretty high percentage

Perry's 620 graded/530 DMPL 69's

Great Basin around 620/286 DMPL's (decrease noted)

Ft McHenry: 500/110 DMPL69's (down to less than 20%) still early on this one (but the only 70 grade of the whole THREE YEARS OF SUBMISSIONS)

Why the decrease? Same process, same coin but only a different design...should be in the same ballpark at least

Create an inflated price for the dmpl's and stimulate more submissions from those collectors hoping for the Holy Grail of DMPLS's...sorry, not buying it...the cynic in me speaking

I was going to add the NGC stats for comparison but the site is down

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Those premiums are something I would never touch. I guess that has the Hawaii coin beat by a landslide.
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@fox

While the basic process is the same the results arent. The mint has been wildly inconsistent with quality by their standards lately. The Denver commemorative half was terrible quality compared to its peers as was the 2012 ASE set, yet SF makes high quality coins overall.

It could be as simple as they rush the later releases. The numbers you posted showed a declining trend, it didnt exactly come out of no where.

It could also just be that pcgs felt they were being to lenient with it and adjusted.

It also has to be considered theres a part of the design that is holding some of them back.

Given my recent experencies with mint order from the general half having bag marks to my 2013 mint set having to be returned 6 times for one without scratches or glue on the coins I have no problem believing they missed on something. My mint set debacle got to the point where I had to order 10 pick out a good one and return the rest.

Well likely see the price come down just like the ms70 general half price got cut in half when people stop trying to be the first ones to get it
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