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My mother purchased this coin for me for Chanukah. I have no experience with this series--she bought it for my type book and this is my first one. I welcome your opinions on the condition of its surfaces and its grade. BTW, the fleck on the obverse between the chin and star was on the mylar.
This is about how it looks in-hand:
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I think your first pic of the obverse is better actually, but that's just me. Looking through photograde, I would say somewhere around EF-40. But, and this is a big BUT, I am quite the rookie at grading, so all I can go by is what I am reading and comparing. Some things look almost AU, especially the reverse and the amount of leaf detail....JMHO and a book.
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the second photo did lighten it up some But I also like the First
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Hi Texas
Which of the pics most closely resemble the coin in hand ?
Those are the one that you want to post to as accurate as can be done by photo's grade opinions.
Auldfartte ,, I can see the VF-30 grade by details on the coin, does the old cleaning affect the grade any on these coins? or do most of these coins show some signs of cleaning some time in their past ?
Rick
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I don't think it will make the EF grade but probably will make the VF-40 or so
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Thanks for all the comments!
I was worried about the surfaces. But with only one comment about an old cleaning, I guess I shouldn't worry.
The coin was represented as VF+, so that seems to be supported by the gallery. Any thoughts of a split grade? VF-20 obverse, EF-40 reverse. Just a thought.
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None of the TPG's do split grades anymore that I know of,, they weight the coin somewhere around 80/20 Obverse/Reverse. of course in your collection as a raw coin, you can apply that type of grade if you believe it is beneficial. but for resale it will not be honored by most collectors. Rick |
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I want to say thanks also to everyone elses inputs. When only looking at photograde as a reference and not have the "experience", it is rather difficult. I kept going between EF and VF and would see things, and then not see things. I think I went to EF because of the leaf details, but I guess I should have went more with my gut on the wear on the obverse instead. Oh well, thanks for the practice Texas.
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I definitely see a VF30 coin here. While I see the evidence of the past cleaning, the surfaces still look very attractive and I don't think it would hurt the value on this coin much. The color looks good and there is no pitting or bizarre toning. I agree that the details on the reverse are EF40ish. As a result, you could probably bring the entire grade of the coin up to VF35. I think this is splitting hairs, though, and not worth it. With the low mintage of 51,000, it is a real sleeper in the series. It is surprising that these coins are not priced through the roof. It is the lowest mintage in the Classic Head Half Cent series. I think you will see some value appreciation on this coin in the years to come as the copper coins seem to be being rediscovered by collectors now. |
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Originally posted by Metalman
Auldfartte ,, I can see the VF-30 grade by details on the coin, does the old cleaning affect the grade any on these coins? or do most of these coins show some signs of cleaning some time in their past ?
An old cleaning on these is not uncommon. Personally, and old cleaning has never bothered me. I'll buy one anyway, although I'd much prefer to have nice original surfaces. Problem is it's become harder to find 19th century US coins available with those original surfaces. Does it affect the grade? Sure. EAC guys would net grade it (as we do for most coppers). PCGS and NGC would not slab it. ANACS would slab it and give it a net grade also. The cleaning would affect the value, IMHO. I don't pay full price for a cleaned coin, even when I really want it. When someone here asks for a grade opinion, and I give my best estimate, it is for the sharpness grade only, just like you find in Photograde or the ANA Grading Standards. EAC grades just tend to confuse typical collectors (and even some of us in EAC  ) so I try to keep it simple. After all, that's how most collectors understand grading. My local coin dealer doesn't even note a cleaning on old copper unless it's harsh. He will regularly note cleaning (even old ones) on silver however. |
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I think this Half Cent has been cleaned and is a net VF-20. The reverse is much stronger and looks XF-40, but the obverse is closer to a F-12. Colin |
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