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Hi everyone, I just picked up this Heraclea mint Theodosius (RIC 26b.2). Honestly, this is my first of this ruler, so I have a few questions. Firstly, how common are coins minted during his reign? Is this Victory advancing left reverse typical? And what kind of value would you place on my coin? Thanks!


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 Posted 12/12/2011  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
According to the rarity scale, Theodosius I is said to be 1 for AE and 6 for AR. I haven't really looked at the price range for those coins so I don't really know yet.
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Gil-galad- Thanks for the input! Sorry for the basic question, but what do Rarity AE and AR mean? And on this scale is a greater number indicative of greater rarity?
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 Posted 12/12/2011  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AE is for copper alloy coins and AR is silver.

The lower the number the more common the ruler is.
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 Posted 12/12/2011  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice original looking coin.
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Gil-galad- Thanks! That's what I presumed.

jessvc1- Thanks!
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 Posted 12/12/2011  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin, this is the most common series from all his issues.
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 Posted 12/12/2011  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
echizento- Thanks for the input! Any guess as to the value? (I bought it from a dealer who estimated that it is worth around $50 - but I paid much less than that)
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 Posted 12/12/2011  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope you didn't pay that much for it. I have a bunch in my collection from uncleaned lots, they show up all the time. Depending on condition and mint mark I wouldn't pay more than $10-$12.
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echizento-hmmmm, to be honest, I paid $30 for it (but it was sight unseen from a VERY reputable dealer). I was hoping that it was a rare variety or something of the like.....hmmm.
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I could be wrong, but I'm seeing this coin as RIC IX 45b. It's listed as scarce, and I would guess there is a little dealer mark-up so that's why you paid a higher price.
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Actually the dealer claimed that it is RIC 26b.2. So is this more common than the kind you believe it to be?
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Unless I'm reading the mint mark wrong which is possible with my eye sight. I don't believe it's 26b. I wasn't able to find 26b.2 so I don't know what the difference is if any, but RIC IX 26b is SMKA, SMKA delta, and SMKA gamma minted at Cyzicus and listed as common.
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I don't believe it's 26b. I wasn't able to find 26b.2


Your right echizento, I think the seller got it wrong. '26b.2' also looks like a mis-reading of RIC including the '2' from the legend table. Archraz's coin looks to be from Nicomedia, most likely 'SMNA' which is listed in RIC IX as 45b or 48a. Its impossible to separate these two numbers.

Its possible its something else but that would require a left field mark to have completely disappeared. RIC lists 45 as 'S' and 48 as 'R2'.
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bobbyhelmet & echizento- Wow, VERY interesting. Because (and I hope that I am not breaking any forum rules by saying so) I bought this from Dirty Old Coins with a certificate of authenticity and a write up with all of the details. I have heard that the owner of this company is known for having a very good eye at IDing coins, so I'm surprised.
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He is very good, but he may have had an off day or it was attributed by one of his staff. You might want to contact him and say that you believe the coin has been mis-attributed. See what he has to say about it.
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