1857 $3 Dollar Gold Piece Grade And Authenticate

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daviscfad Pillar of the Community United States 4541 Posts	Posted 12/12/2011 10:08 pm a friend of mine has this 3 dollar gold piece and was wondering how it might grade and if it is authentic. Pictures not the best but let me know what you think Edited by daviscfad 12/12/2011 10:17 pm Report this Post to the Staff

slickeast New Member United States 45 Posts	Posted 12/12/2011 10:45 pm What happened to the I's? Report this Post to the Staff
daviscfad Pillar of the Community United States 4541 Posts	Posted 12/12/2011 10:58 pm Thats whats got me concerned slick Report this Post to the Staff
BH1964 Bedrock of the Community United States 10982 Posts	Posted 12/12/2011 11:20 pm Quote: What happened to the I's? Some genuine 1857 G$3 pieces had the "I" issue. This piece looks polished and would not grade problem-free. Details look close to AU. It needs to be authenticated but my gut feeling is it's genuine. ANA #R3154474 Report this Post to the Staff
westcoin Pillar of the Community United States 9792 Posts	Posted 12/13/2011 01:51 am It looks okay, I'd send it to ANACS as it's cleaned for sure, not going higher than a Details grade of XF-45. No sense in wasting money grading on a comon date $3.00 (as if $3.00 gold pieces are common). "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 12/13/2011 12:27 pm Authentication is probably called for. No worse than EF45 Details, and still worth north of $500 at that. The last two XF Details coins sold at Heritage went for $690 and $747.50; this one has had a harsher cleaning than either of those. Report this Post to the Staff
D0ubl3Eagle Pillar of the Community United States 5854 Posts	Posted 12/13/2011 5:12 pm I am also thinking EF/AU details/cleaned. My feeling is that this is genuine but since the surfaces do not look original it is a bit harder to tell. Edited by D0ubl3Eagle 12/13/2011 5:13 pm Report this Post to the Staff
johnny54321 Rest in Peace United States 4849 Posts	Posted 12/13/2011 10:52 pm It looks whizzed to me(note the unnatural cartwheel look on the reverse). The bubbly look on some of the devices bother me too, but I can't point to an "AHA" diagnostic that proves it's counterfeit, so it's probably worth submitting. Any chance you could get some bigger pics? Not that yours are small, but it's little things can make or break it. The denticles look fine, and those can be a dead giveaway. I used to own a counterfeit(inadvertently) $3 gold from 1855, and since $3 gold is THE most counterfeited US gold coin, I am a skeptic...:-) Report this Post to the Staff
Jaobler Pillar of the Community United States 6387 Posts	Posted 12/14/2011 01:54 am Like Trade dollars, genuine 3-dollar coins are less common than counterfeits. I bought my one and only 3-dollar piece as a raw coin over 12 years ago and it was thankfully later authenticated by PCGS. I don't think I'd risk buying a raw example now, unless it came with an ironclad guarantee. This 1857 seems to have rather blunt details (note the lower hair curls and the corn ears) that could be the result of polishing. It's definitely a "problem" coin, apart from my general concern about authenticity. If your friend wants confirmation the coin should take a trip to ANACS. Even with problems it would be worth more IMO if encapsulated in an ANACS details slab. Report this Post to the Staff
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