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 Posted 12/15/2011  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Why is cleaning coins considered a crime in the colecting community?


That's a very complicated question. In general collectors want coins in original, unaltered condition. Actions performed on coins to "improve" them usually create visible defects that experienced collectors don't like so they won't purchase such coins. Coins that have signs of cleaning such as hairline scratches, luster disturbances, or strange coloration will be harder to sell and will likely have to be heavily discounted to attract a buyer. That alone is an excellent reason not to clean your coins!

It is possible to "correctly" clean coins to remove stains, PVC residue (polyvinyl chloride), and other substances that contaminate the surface but this must be done carefully, preferably by an expert. Amateur cleaning attempts usually don't end well and once the coin is damaged you can't undo it.

There are many threads on the forum about cleaning so read further if you are interested.
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 Posted 12/15/2011  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterimen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok thanks!
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 Posted 12/15/2011  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Why is cleaning coins considered a crime in the colecting community?


Because anyone asking that question is 100 times more likely to damage than improve a coin in a cleaning attempt.

If they can demonstrate the ability to unfry an egg, they should have no problem uncleaning a coin, which tends to be the stumbling block.
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 Posted 12/15/2011  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also thought this was not genuine based on the rims.
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 Posted 12/15/2011  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mysterimen-

One solution if the seller is in the US, is have him agree to send it to your choice of TPG, and you pay the winning bid plus all TPG charges if it comes back OK, plus shipping to you.

If he's not willing to do that, then...
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 Posted 12/15/2011  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterimen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He didnt even answer me to tell me they weight on the coins, but no hes from Portugal, its better to forget it! Regarding to coin cleaning I cleaned all my coins with soft tissues like cotton! I've been cleaning with baking soda I guess ill try with acetone too, someone sugested less rubing, and I will try almond oil suposses to be good on restoring patina, because I guess to collectors its all about how wealthy does the patina looks!
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 Posted 12/15/2011  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reason I say try sticking a magnet to it is because one sticks to my fake from China.



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 Posted 12/15/2011  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterimen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great copy thow! You could sell that coin to a hillbilly and make profit!
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 Posted 12/16/2011  08:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mysterimen,

Permit me to join in with others, persuading you not to:

- clean your coins (with water, baking soda, acetone, etc.
- rub them with a soft cloth, finger, anything.
- handle them without gloves

Depending on the coin, any of the above risk reducing coin value by at least 50%, sometimes more, sometimes less.

If you must do anything to a coin, get specific direction from an expert if that expert isn't going to do the anything to the coin.

On occasion, treating a coin might be merited...and the reasons are very specific to people who know what theyre doing.

For instance, a lot of expert collectors might use a solution to bring out dates on certain coins.

I dont know any expert collectors who "clean" coins.

If a coin must be cleaned, the cleaner must be sure of the ways, means, and reasons for doing so.

End of rant.

:)



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12/16/2011 08:02 am
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 Posted 12/16/2011  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterimen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks buddy, your a good old conservative collector, dont mess with the coins!
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 Posted 12/20/2011  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterimen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This auction ended at 26.13$ including shipping costs!
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 Posted 12/20/2011  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's just slightly over scrap, a sure indication that no one felt it is real.
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 Posted 12/20/2011  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterimen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would you pay so much for a coin you knew was fake? I wouldnt!
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 Posted 12/20/2011  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w00zi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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you're a good old conservative collector, don't mess with the coins!

Actually most collectors you meet would never think of cleaning a coin. Cleaning not only destroys the monetary value but also the eye appeal of the coin (puts hundreds of tiny scratch marks all over the fields).
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 Posted 12/21/2011  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterimen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i can relly to that! But the bottom line the apeal of collectors is because of patina and it can be achived artificially!
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