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Interesting/Unique Art Bars

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 Posted 12/16/2011  12:58 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SilverCoinBoi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Whenever I see a unique Silver art bar, I am always interested (for the right price, of course).

Just happened to be browsing ebay's listings that were ending soonest, and was happy to find this little piece of art.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/29064430790....m1439.l2649

Feel like I got a decent deal, seeing as how shipping was free. Also, I expect Silver to be on the rise after the recent dip.

Anyone else have any art Silver bars or rounds? Art bullion isn't like others, so I truly enjoy trying to grab them at a reasonable price.
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 Posted 12/16/2011  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
a unique piece. By weight it would be worth <$25 but by ebay standards you didn't do bad at all.
Not a fan my self of generic art bars though. I guess I remain a bit skeptical of the silver content in bars/coins I don't recognize. That negates one of the attractive qualities of art bars for me, their variety.
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I have like 20 random art bars, just remember that the art rarely adds value. They can usually be had for spot almost physical location ie (coin shows).
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I like the year of the dragon bars if that is considered art. I really am itching to pick up a few 1oz bars, but I just wasted all my extra cash on 90% coins.
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...but I just wasted all my extra cash on 90% coins.

OK, here is where the older forum hands can help adjust your attitude. What you did was not a "waste". You converted scraps of paper with ink on them into something of REAL value; the 90% silver coins. Silver and gold have been recognized by virtually all human civilizations as things of value for more than 5,000 years. Un-backed paper money? Not so much. They always go POOF! thanks to over-printing and the resulting inflation that always follows. Anyway, that was an excellent move on your part!

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 Posted 12/23/2011  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add everything to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I love art bars, I always go through the art bar box at the coin shop. They are, of course, collectible, few books out there you can get on them.
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 Posted 12/24/2011  01:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First off it is 25 grams, and that bugs me. I am so anal bout even numbers, that I bought a half oz. high premium sealed dragon art bar just to get back to even numbers after trading for a 32.5 silver kilo bar from Pobox, lol. Price not bad at all for as mentioned for ebay for that amount....

I was settin on 69, and a half oz. and was like yeah why not round her off at a even Steven 70, lol....

Secondly, like mentioned it will never command much more than spot, as you can see some nicks on it, and it is not SEALED. Try to find items that are sealed, as finger prints and the elements result in toning....

President history is always unique history IMO, an overall good addition....

Not knocking your silver hunting at all, as I have made many similar buys, but now I figure I would rather pay a bit more and get something that will always command more dying dollars later. For example I look at the prices of a 5 oz. Englehard bar and my stomach turns, but you know what when I asked my local dealer if he ever has any, and he replied...."Not often as I can't keep them in stock, and they sell immediately."

To me that is most key info from someone who knows through experience, and that tells me Johnson and Englehard sealed bars (or even the loose unsealed loaf pours) is about the SAFEST silver bullion investment you can make, or even Silvertown or Sunshine if the prices for the fore mentioned turns your stomach as it does mine, lol....

Of course there not ART bars, but you can find great examples of sealed art bars that have more of a proof like quality. Which the old president art bars I have OWNED or other older bars I had like the Charles Lindbergh bar almost appeared to have lost their silver luster.....
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12/24/2011 01:54 am
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First off it is 25 grams, and that bugs me. I am so anal bout even numbers...

Lol, Hawk! I can see why you don't collect any 90% silver coins. ALL of them have weird silver weights. Not that big a deal, really. The silver weights are well published and they only ever made 4 silver coin types in the US, so keeping track of silver ounces really isn't THAT difficult. I do agree that nice even ounces are easier and the 1/4 and 1/2 ounce fractionals don't overly complicate the situation.
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Yeah Ed, you nailed it lol.....

I did like that Bary G grabbed that 100 bag of Peace dollars, and I scratched my chin and said, hmmmm 75 ounces, of silver, and 100 examples of old history in various dates and old coins, that is not a bad deal and pretty cool history as well, and I would not mind adding and angle to my collection/hoard like that....

When I think about it, I figure one can't go wrong with a good balance of numismatic old silver coins and pure silver bullion as well. As I figure you would agree Ed, seeing as how you buy both of the fore mentioned....

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12/24/2011 11:53 pm
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I do buy some of the older silver coins but they are just common date coins of no special numismatic value. Typically, these would be the Morgan dollars. I have a number of these and most are from 1880-1900 plus some from 1921. The Peace dollars are just silver bullion to me. I don't really care for the design, preferring the Morgan design. Still, when I can buy a Peace dollar at or near spot for its silver content, why not?
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I have a soft spot for BU silver dollars. Getting them at a reasonable price can be hard. I don't consider the regular circulated silver dollars as adding anything in the way of numismatic value. There are just too many of them.

Though lately most places have been putting a higher premium on just abut any old silver dollar. I am willing to take a larger gamble on the BU coins, time will tell if I am right or not.

I think the Peace dollar is a good buy and the future might hold a special place for them.
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