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Does Carbon Streaking Detract From Grade Too Much?

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 Posted 12/26/2011  08:01 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I bought this coin graded at EF which I think is about right based on wear? I was wondering if people think, what I will call carbon streaking (dont know if this is correct?) which can be seen on the reverse, detracts from the grade much. There is quite a bit of lustre in an around the lettering on both sides but I wasnt able to photograph it too well. Also couldnt get the lighting right for the 7th & 8th pearls but they are there much stronger than the photo shows.

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 Posted 12/26/2011  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add the-purple-penny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes larger carbon streaks show slight planchet flaw under loupe. It depends on the dealer whether carbon will affect the coins grade, I know some put more relevance on it and some not. Personally I like a very streaky coin but send it to PCGS and they hate it. They will definately downgrade it due to the streaking.
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 Posted 12/26/2011  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally I like the streaky effect on copper coins.
Gives them a bit of character and individuality.
Very rare you will get the same streaking on different coins.
A bit like a coins fingerprint
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In most cases, 'carbon' streaking or spots are not carbon, but are patches of metallic sulphides. I have a silver rupee of Edward V11 uncirculated, with impossible to remove black spotting on it. If those spots were pure carbon, they could be easily removed without damage to the coin.

They have permanently etched their way into the surface of the coin, reducing the value of the coin down to bullion value. I know of no way of effectively removing them. This particular coin is in my hoard of junk silver. No loss to me, I bought it at below melt anyway.
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 Posted 12/26/2011  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would mark it down. Just because something is of mint origin doesn't mean it's acceptable.
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 Posted 12/27/2011  04:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally I quite like this on the coin. Like trout said its something different and a little unique. Disappointing to hear it may detract from the grade
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enworb is right. The totally dominating black marks on my rupee ruin it.
It must be remembered that 'patination', which can actually enhance eye appeal, can help to show a coin off.

It also must be remembered that patination is really a form of mild surface corrosion.

Beauty can be a delicate thing.
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 Posted 12/27/2011  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sting is in the hand of the bee holder, and all that.
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