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from what I have found. in my love hate relation ship with google.

this coin is
Te Tsung 1875 - 1908 CE AE cash coin (23 mm 3.50 gm)
Reign title: Kuang Hsu; Ching Dynasty
Fu mint; Fukien province.

with there picture here.
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http://tjbuggey.ancients.info/Chinese.html

Other then that I cant really find any information on it. I think its an awesome looking coin and would love some more information on the coin.

Pictures are from my phone so they are not the best thats why I provided other pictures.

Thanks.

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I actually did the wrong coin, but lose all pictures if edit it.

Howard Cole ID'ed this coin for me and it marks the end of an era - or eon.

It is listed in Jen's book, "Chinese Cash; Identification and Price Guide," on Chinese coins. It is number 863 and attributed to Xuan Tong (a.k.a Pu Yi), the last Chinese emperor (Qing Dynasty). It is also listed in "Krause's Standard Catalog of World Coins, 1901 to Date. He lists it as Xuan Tong Tong Bao, Bao Quan Mint. It has a Fisher's Ding number of 2662.

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Maybe I was searching the wrong thing.

I will have to look more into it more later.

it weights 4.50 g
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Unfortunately, the website you've linked to is not a comprehensive listing of all the Qing Dynasty emperors. You coin is one of the types not listed there. It's from the Dao Guang emperor (called "Tao-kuang" in the Krause catalogue) who reigned 1821-1851. The Calgary Coin pages are much more comprehensive, though still by no means complete. Your coin is Yunnan province mintmark, listed (but not illustrated) about 2/3 of the way down that page.
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Thanks. do you know what the coin says?

Also not really sure how to grade these coins to determine the value. if there is actually any.
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In the top pic (which is the right way up) is the obverse with the standard four-character inscription, used on Chinese coins from the Tang Dynasty (621 AD) up until shortly after the fall of the Empire in 1911 - the longest-running coinage design in the history of the world. The top and bottom characters are the emperor's reign-name: "Dao Guang" (not his actual name, Xuan Zong, which was considered too special for commoners to use) which literally translates to "Path of Light". The character on the right is "tong", meaning "passable" or "current" in the monetary sense, and the character on the left is "bao", meaning "treasure", "coin" or "money"; these two characters (read right-to-left as "tong bao") appear on almost all Qing Dynasty coins. Thus, the obverse says "Currency of the Dao Guang emperor".

In the bottom pic (which is upside-down), we have the reverse, bearing the mintmark. The language on this side is Manchu (a form of Mongolian), rather than Chinese; the Qing Dynasty emperors were descended from invaders from Manchuria and their native language was still used in the Imperial court. The triple-swirly character to the left (on the right in your pic) is the word "Boo", meaning "mint"; it appears on all Qing Dynasty coins. The other word is the mint-name; in this case, "Yun", for Yunnan province.

There is no date; very few Chinese cash coins bear dates. There are a few artistic clues that could let us know whether the coin is "early" or "late" in the period 1821-1850, but nothing much more precise than that.
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Grading cast Chinese coins is tricky, because the different method of production means that standards applied to struck coinage don't apply. The coin never had mint lustre, for example, so you can't judge condition by its presence or absence.

Generally, the clearer and more legible the characters are, the better the condition (and value). Corrosion (like that evident in the Guang Xu coin, topmost pic, taken from tjbuggey) is a negative, but not as severely a negative as it would be on a Western-style struck coin.
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Wow very informative. Thank you.
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