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Identifying This Old Copper Coin

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I bought this coin about 35 years ago from an antique coin dealer. I did not write anything down about it at that time.

Now I wish to document what it is. I believe it to be made of copper from it color. Can someone tell me more about this coin as to exact name and date issued? What research I have been able to do makes me think this is an Indian mughal rupee. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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 Posted 12/27/2011  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sap or drnsreedhar could surely help in this one. These coins are not my expertise.
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 Posted 12/27/2011  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DCH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1/4 Anna of Jodhpur. Date off the flan, but 1937-1939. KM# 141
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 Posted 12/27/2011  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glad my instincts aren't too far off on this one. I saw it and thought "Jodhpur", but got distracted by other threads and forgot to look it up.
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Cajunlady0- Very cool coin. I love South Asian coins, and these heavy copper coins are quite fascinating. A lot of coin dealers in the states just don't know what to make of them, so they often end up in junk buckets in stores (or occasionally just thrown out). All in all these coins are worth about $2 in this condition.
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 Posted 12/28/2011  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cajunlady0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all so much for the information. It sure is a heavy coin which I like for some reason. The thicker the better, right? LOL

I am going to record and document (before I forget) this coin plus do more research on its origin and coin value. I have no clue what an Anna is, much less what a 1/4 of one is.

I was kind of hoping this would be one of those rare finds worth about $500,000, but once again it is just one pretty interesting coin. I have a bunch of those in my little pile already. :)

Really appreciate all the input. You all are very knowledgeable!

Thanks again.

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 Posted 12/28/2011  12:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry it isn't worth much ): ... but it's a really nice and old coin (:
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, Cajunlady0!
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I went looking for a documented picture of this 1/4 Anna of Jodhpur 1937-1939 KM# 141 so I could print it out and include it with the coin.

I hate to bother you all again, but I can not find a reference picture with the same design of this coin. I found some similiar, but not one like I have. If someone could post a link or copy the picture with the info on it, I would greatly appreciate it.

Maybe each coin is different in designs and not all the same. Don't know if they were handmade or machine made.

Sorry to bother you experts again, but I just wanted printed proof to include with the coin. I will also keep looking for my coin picture in some reference book.
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 Posted 12/28/2011  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These coins were made the old-fashioned way, by a bloke with a big hammer smashing a piece of metal between two hand-held dies. The dies, typically, are much larger than the actual coins that usually come out of them, meaning that many coins are missing important details, like the date (which is what DCH meant when he said, "Date off the flan").

For some online examples of your coin, try here and here. The comments on that coin state that coins with no visible date are probably better classified as KM# 143. There are several other examples amongst the rather lengthy zeno.ru Johdpur pages.

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I have no clue what an Anna is, much less what a 1/4 of one is.

In the predecimal monetary system used in much of British-controlled India at the time, there were 4 pice to an anna, 16 annas to a rupee, 15 rupees to a mohur. A rupee was a large silver coin, slightly smaller than an American half-dollar, so you won't go too far astray thinking of a 1/4 anna as equivalent to a cent.
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 Posted 12/28/2011  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cajunlady0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much SAP.......... you cleared up all my questions. I understand totally now about why my coin shows some of the characters as I have seen in others. And also how it relates to the bigger coins of that series/era.

Thinking back, I must have been given this coin by the dealer with my purchases. I would not have bought it without it having a label or in a protective sleeve. I can't help but chuckle thinking that I held on to this coin for so long with a current value of approx $2. Back then it must have been worth 5 cents! LOL But, you never know... if copper skyrockets like gold and silver one day, it will be worth a pretty penny. Not holding my breath, but I can still dream. Can't I?

Thanks for taking the time to enlighten me on this coin and all things surrounding it, guys. It kind of makes me want to get another one. :) Might be my next search on ebay.

HUGS to you all!
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Hi all

Is it something similar?

Thanks
Jerry

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It looks like an Indian dump copper paisa, perhaps of the 18th century.
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I see. But I am still bit curious about the horse, eye and the flower imprints.. I see these more on celtic coins..
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