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Unidentified British Penny Coin

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 Posted 12/30/2011  07:42 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MikeG to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can't seem to trace this one; very worn and date is unreadable.
Just 28mm in diameter and just over 1mm thick. Looks to be copper rather than bronze but not too sure on that one.
The strange thing it read 'Glorious' with the old 'V' instead of a 'U' so assume it's quite old. No doubt someone will recognise it instantly.
Thanks in advance,
Mike.



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 Posted 12/30/2011  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is what's known as an "evasion" - a counterfeit coin made with legends that were close to, but not identical to, the legends on genuine coins. At the time they were in circulation, they were known as "Brummagems", because they were widely known to have been manufactured by button-and-badge-makers in the city of Birmingham.

The theory being that someone who was in a hurry (or who was illiterate) would see a pattern of letters that was "close enough" to a genuine coin, and accept it as genuine. And, if the counterfeiter was caught, he might escape a hanging if he could persuade the judge that his "medals" were sufficiently different from the coin of the realm, and it wasn't his fault if people got confused and spent them as money.

In this case, the name that's supposed to be around the king's head (if it were a genuine halfpenny) is "GEORGIVS III REX", not "GLORIOVS III VIS". Meanwhile, on the reverse, we see "BRITISH TARS" instead of "BRITANNIA". "Tar", in this instance, is the slang word for "sailor". So, it's ostensibly a "medal" in praise of British naval superiority. It's similarity to a British halfpenny is purely coincidental.

This piece is listed in the Atkins catalogue of evasions (and the Galata catalogue which uses Atkins numbers) as number 271, valued at 20 pounds in Fine (unfortunately, this one's condition is far worse than British Fine). Examples of this coin in better condition show a date "1771" below Britannia, but dates on evasions are usually fictitious; it was more likely to have been struck in the 1790s or early 1800s.
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Wow did not know that sap, thanks for the info.
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WOW; so many thanks for that excellent explanation Sap; an unusual find and certainly one for the collection; even if it is a fake. :)
Mike.
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SAP - your impressive. As an add-on a new book is in the works by Morris Haskins. It's near publication and this will overide the Atkins 1892 listing in the Appendix of this classic work. SAP do me a favor - start telling everyone that Canadian Blacksmith Copper Wood 33 is an EVASION and not a Blacksmith. Unfortunately the most common evasion wound up in a group of Blacksmiths and Howland Wood in 1910 did the rest with his classic work on the subject in the Numismatist. I do admire your breadth of knowledge SAP. I really do ...

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great info, thanks
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Many thanks to all who responded. Great info!! Tom Smith
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