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 Posted 01/04/2012  08:56 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi...just curious what causes an 'orange peel' effect such as on this 2008 five cent coin

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adding another photo ...as you can see it is on the "5" "face" "hands" and "feet"



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01/04/2012 10:18 am
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 Posted 01/04/2012  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect grease or oil droplets between the die and the planchet. Looks like the image of a fine spray.
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 Posted 01/04/2012  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve - Oz 50c man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
tossed out the window of a car at speed...?
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 Posted 01/04/2012  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gravel rash, probebly been dropped on a road for while.
The marks are only on the raised part of the coin design
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01/04/2012 6:15 pm
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no..it's not damage...coin is in very good condition...I think I like the first reply...if you look closely its also on the lower area under the '5'and on the spikes..surface smooth...not damaged
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01/04/2012 7:51 pm
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 Posted 01/04/2012  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you post a pic of the other side
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 Posted 01/04/2012  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

This is the obverse

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..and under microscope


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01/04/2012 8:31 pm
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 Posted 01/04/2012  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erkle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
a test coin to see if it looked better with a dimpled look?
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01/04/2012 9:03 pm
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 Posted 01/04/2012  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
actually, I quite like the look
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old gravel rash worn smooth by three years rubbing?
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 Posted 01/04/2012  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
definitely not that
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Imagine poor old 5 cent coin on a busy city street, Nobody would take the effort to pick up a lousy 5 cents (not worth the effort) poor little bugger.
People keep walking all over it and grinding it into the sidewalk.
Then after a few weeks some young kid spots it and with a beaming grin asks mum if they can spend it on lollies.
So off they trot to the lolly shop with the young uns new found fortune and after Mum has had to add a couple of dollars the lollies are bought.
Then the battered but relieved lill 5 cent goes back into circulation.
I think that is a more likely scenario than a grease or oil splatter at the mint
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01/04/2012 11:27 pm
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 Posted 01/04/2012  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had an idea I had read about the 'orange peel effect' and copied this from an article.
'3: Indications that the die is nearing the end of its useful life become more apparent with poor overall detail, a dull finish indicative of a low pressure strike, potential porosity of a coin's surface passed from the die, often coined the orange peel effect due to the coin's surface being reminiscent of orange peels.'

and this
'Many times a worn die strike, or one struck on an improperly annealed planchet, will exhibit a "rippled" effect on the coin, similar in appearance to the skin of an orange.'
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 Posted 01/05/2012  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The orange peel affect is a real die problem at the mint.
My point is that the affect on your coin is only on the raised area of the coin not on the entire surface.
Here is a pic I "borrowed" from another CCF post on this subject.
Notice the effect is on all of the coin and not just on the high areas.
The effect on the 1 cent coin looks like tiny bubbles.
The effect on your coin looks like tiny abrasions


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01/05/2012 12:13 am
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would like to see that pic closer up...doesn't appear to be on wording

The pic I have sent shows a consistent pattern so I am still thinking it is something to do with the stamping , rather than PMD
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I am with trout1105
I think PMD.
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