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5 Lire Coins From 1812 And 1832

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 Posted 01/08/2012  1:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add alexjbeckett to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi there,

I have inherited some coins left by my father and I thought I might as well check if they are worth anything before putting them back in a box. Idon't know the first thing about coin valuration rarity etc so I saw this website and thought I would make a quick post.

I have 2 coins one from 1832 5 lire with maria luigia on the front.

The other is from 1812 with napoleone on the front and it is also a 5 lire coin.

Is there any way to check these are copies, whether they are rare etc

Thanks very much guys

Your help is appreciated

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 Posted 01/08/2012  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Poland Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Napoleonic Kingdom of Italy, modern fake dated 1812 AD., produced ca 2000 AD., 5 Lire, cf. KM 10.4.
Napoleonic Kingdom of Italy, "Milan" mint, modern high-pressure cast fake dated 1812 AD., produced ca 2000 AD.,
5 Lire (37 mm / 22,37 g), genuine coins at this state of conservation show a weight of 25,00 g,
Obv.: NAPOLEONE IMPERATORE E RE / 1812 / M , his head facing right.
Rev.: REGNO - D´ITALIA / 5. LIRE , crowned Napoleonic coat of arms.
COST 300 USD

Parma. Maria Luigia 5 Lire 1832, KM-C30, toned AVF, few small rim dings, scarcer date.From the Blue Ridge CollectionShipping: Coin/Currency (view shipping information)COST 300USD
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01/08/2012 2:05 pm
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 Posted 01/08/2012  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alexjbeckett to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow thanks for that quick info

SO the Napoleone coin is a fake but the coin from parma might be worth something.

Any idea where I can possibly get this checked by a coin specialist in london? Or is this something I can send to a website to sell?
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 Posted 01/08/2012  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Poland Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ebay my friend ;]
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 Posted 01/08/2012  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello, Alex, and welcome to the forum.
To me, they also appear to be reproductions, in particular I don't like the portraits, the noodly hair on Bonaparte is not the 1800's style. But you need to get as many opinions as you can to make sure whether they are authentic or not.

One of the basic tests is weighing coins. Both coins should weigh 25 grams, any sizable discrepancy is the "death sentence". Also check with the a magnet, many modern counterfeits are magnetic. Good luck!
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 Posted 01/08/2012  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t0rress to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
5 Lire 1812 fake
see the hair of the authentic coins
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and 5 lire 1832
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The portrait on your coin dosent look like this
And the patina of your coins is so fake.
I am 99 % sure that they are fake.
to CCF
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01/08/2012 5:14 pm
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 Posted 01/08/2012  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Napoleonic Kingdom of Italy, modern fake dated 1812 AD., produced ca 2000 AD., 5 Lire, cf. KM 10.4.
Napoleonic Kingdom of Italy, "Milan" mint, modern high-pressure cast fake dated 1812 AD., produced ca 2000 AD.,
5 Lire (37 mm / 22,37 g), genuine coins at this state of conservation show a weight of 25,00 g,
Obv.: NAPOLEONE IMPERATORE E RE / 1812 / M , his head facing right.
Rev.: REGNO - D´ITALIA / 5. LIRE , crowned Napoleonic coat of arms.
COST 300 USD

Parma. Maria Luigia 5 Lire 1832, KM-C30, toned AVF, few small rim dings, scarcer date.From the Blue Ridge CollectionShipping: Coin/Currency (view shipping information)COST 300USD


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Wow thanks for that quick info

I'm sorry, but that "info" seems to be pulled off random coins that matched alexj's. And that isn't really helping.
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 Posted 01/08/2012  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We must all be getting old... it's now to the point where the Chinese fakes are getting passed on to the next generation.
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