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2012 War Of 1812 Commemorative Dollars

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Ordered my 2012 War of 1812 Bicentennial commemorative silver dollars from the RCM earlier today - 1 BU, 1 Proof and 1 Gold-Plated.

It was a bit tough to spend $225 for the Fine Silver Proof Set to get the gold-plated version of 1812 Bicentennial Dollar, but it looks like it's the only way to get it as the lower cost "Classic" Proof Set that will be released in the spring will include the standard proof silver dollar instead of the GP version as it has since 2005.

Oh well, got to keep the collection complete!
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 Posted 01/10/2012  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KJL82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any pics for the non masters club members amongst us?
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 Posted 01/10/2012  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Here's the set

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 Posted 01/10/2012  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KJL82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, thanks for sharing that...great looking set, may have to grab one myself
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 Posted 01/10/2012  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aDk2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I grabbed a $225 set too... first proof set in my collection!
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 Posted 01/10/2012  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice set to begin your proof set collection. Congrats!
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 Posted 01/11/2012  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChuckB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice.

too many sets/coins to collect, not nearly enough uncollectable coins. That is a nice looking set..
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 Posted 01/25/2012  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crockett to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was at the post office today and saw these coins.

The Proof is very attractive. On the BU it is very hard to see the details. but it may have been the lighting to. The Gold plated has not arrived yet.

The Sets are to be in by Friday, goning to go take a look then.

The Bluenose Looks really nice, but my it's small.

I'll be grabbing the proof for sure.
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 Posted 01/26/2012  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amaths to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have been wondering how often do the post offices update their displays? I found one in a shoppers drug mart still selling the 7-pc uncirculated sets of 2010.

Btw, do they accept credit card for the coins?
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 Posted 01/26/2012  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canuck1us to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Which dollar would be the best purchase (if you weren't going to get both)?

The BU at $54.95 mintage 25,000

or

The Proof at $59.95 mintage 40,000

The Proof probably looks nicer but has 15,000 more minted or are both of the mintages so high that it doesn't really factor in to future value or demand and one should just pick which they like best?
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 Posted 01/26/2012  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crockett to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
at silver prices $33.49 today and these being 3/4 oz, I think both are great buys.
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One will end up in my collection.

Does anyone know why the mintage would be different? for some reason I was a bit surprised to read that the Proof one had a higher mintage. I'm new so know little about these things
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Proof versions of the commemorative silver dollars have outsold the BU versions since both versions became available in 1981. It would seem to indicate that more collectors prefer the visual contrast (frosted primary design elements with brilliant backgrounds/fields) offered by the proof editions. I also think, however, that proof sales are partially driven by non-collectors who purchase coins to give as gifts. So, the Royal Canadian Mint is just responding to demand.

The same sales pattern is seen in the US with it's commemorative coins, so it's not just a Canadian phenomena.
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 Posted 01/27/2012  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Following up on my original post...

My silver dollars and silver proof set arrived today. As expected, the technical / production quality of the coins is top notch.

A few comments about the silver dollar designs now that I see them "in person":

1. The battlefield terrain behind the soldiers and warrior is in lower relief / less detailed than what is depicted in the image of the coin on the RCM website. Result? The overall image presented by the coin is not as bold as perhaps it could have been, the battlefield significance is diminished.

2. The soldiers and warrior are nicely detailed but fairly small. As these are the design elements that receive the satiny finish on the standard proofs and the gold plating on the special edition pieces, the impact of the special finishes is much more subtle than on most of the other dollars in the series. The result? Not bad, but the "Wow!" factor is missing.

Also of note, the silver One Cent piece in the proof set is nicely done - certainly an interesting look for the coin.

Overall, I'm pleased with the new coins but have to admit that the overall design theme of the silver dollars could have been better executed.


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I ordered a set earlier this week, it was my understanding that only 20,000 were to be issued, a post above specifies 25K and 40K, ? are only the proof sets limited to 20K but extra dollars in BU and Proof are being issued seperately?
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basicbob101: you're correct. In addition to the 20k silver (with gold plating) commemorative dollars available in the Fine Silver Proof Set, there will be additional Proof (without gold plating) and BU dollars available separately. In a month or so, the Mint will also be issuing a regular proof set with base metal coins that will also include the War of 1812 silver dollar (without gold plating). As the set will likely have a potential mintage of 40k or more, there will be quite a few proof silver dollars out there!
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