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Two Different Countries, Same Design.

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 Posted 01/10/2012  6:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Design proclaiming the eternal love friendship for one another.
I always find those comparisons, across years or across borders, curious. And the fact is that I'd had one of these coins for decades while I saw the other just a couple of months ago and had to have it.

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 Posted 01/10/2012  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Westwood Arms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll bet it wasn't Bulgaria's idea :-)
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 Posted 01/10/2012  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting pair--the reverse die is exactly the same.
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 Posted 01/10/2012  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect they were done at the same mint. No MM's though.
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 Posted 01/11/2012  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why would it not have been the Bulgarian government's idea? In the same year (1300 yrs Bulgaria) they also issued a Bulgarian-Hungarian "combo" featuring two men who were both writers and national revolutionaries: Hristo Botev from Bulgaria and Sándor PetÅ'fi from Hungary. By the way, according to the Schön catalog, the Bulgarian coin depicted above was minted in Sofia while the USSR coin was made by the Leningrad mint.

Joint or "omnibus" issues are more common for stamps, but you find lots of such coins as well, even with (partly) identical designs. Think of the Entente Cordiale coins (FR-UK) or the Ibero-American series for example ...

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Thanks, Christian, for clearing the air. I wasn't sure if Sofia had its own mint. I know that some Bulgarian coins were minted in Hungary, France, Germany, and England.
I've never come across any records of whose coins Soviet mints made.
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 Posted 01/12/2012  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Westwood Arms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have good friends from Poland and they absolutely despise the period of soviet rule. I assumed that the Bulgarians would harbor the same negativity towards the USSR and not willingly sponser a friendship (shaking hands) coin. But you know what they say about assuming.
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 Posted 01/13/2012  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I understand, but coins are usually issued by governments, or more negatively put, by the "rulers". ;) The Bulgarian government was probably perfectly OK with that coin, especially as it was issued as part of the "1300 years Bulgaria" series (with almost 30 different coin types ...); that is why I think it may well have been their idea. By the way, here is the Bulgarian-Hungarian "double pack" that I mentioned:
http://www.ma-shop.com/hardelt/pic/bul-5lk132u.jpg
http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/img13/85-622.jpg

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 Posted 01/15/2012  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got another example. This time we have different sizes and even different years of issue. Designs do not match 100% but you can see it's the same motif, commemorating an anniversary of the Commonwealth of Independent States (the name of the wreckage of the Soviet Union).

On the left we have Belarus (NCLT) 1 ruble of 2006 (15th anniversary), on the right - Russian (circulation) 10 one ruble of 2001 (10th anniversary).
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Edit: I made a mistake with the denomination.
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01/16/2012 03:32 am
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I assumed that the Bulgarians would harbor the same negativity towards the USSR and not willingly sponser a friendship (shaking hands) coin.
Bulgaria was one of the Soviet Union's closest allies in the "cold war". Their first "Soviet" PM was a close friend of Stalin. Naturally, the people's opinion of Stalinism was less optimistic.
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As chrisild already stated, there are also omnibus-issues outside the Russian influenced states. He already mentioned the Entente Cordiale issue by France and the United Kingdom.

Another omnibus-issue was the 1994 issue by Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg, commemorating the 50th Anniversary of Benelux.

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 Posted 01/18/2012  04:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those Benelux coins are attractive indeed. :) Out of curiosity, do you happen to know why the "orientation" of the face value is different on the piece from Luxembourg?

Portugal and Spain both joined the EC/EU in 1986, and both commemorated that with "omnibus" issues in 2006 and 2011. Here is the '06 set (image: Witte/muenzauktion).

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I suppose "LUX" wanted to distinguish itself from "BE", otherwise the reverses would look identical. It'd make more sense if Belgian and Luxembourgian francs valued differently, but they were one-to-one.

Nice examples, everyone, keep 'em coming!
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 Posted 01/19/2012  02:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a relatively early Austrian-German example. In 1930 both the German Empire and the Austrian Republic issued a commemorative coin dedicated to Walther von der Vogelweide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walthe...r_Vogelweide who died around 1230. Fifty years later the Federal Republic of Germany issued a Walther coin too (750th anniversary of his death, 1980), but that was not an omnibus issue. Here are links to the two that came out in 1930:

http://www.muenzauktion.com/kohlros...plus2-oe.jpg
http://www.muenzkatalog-online.de/k...mage_818.jpg

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