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1902 S Morgan You Vs PCGS

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 Posted 01/11/2012  12:01 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Landon to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Got this coin for a great price and out of curiosity would like to see how the PCGS grade compares to opinions here.
Will post grade after a few guesses.

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01/11/2012 12:27 am
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 Posted 01/11/2012  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the obverse is a MS-63+.
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Pictures aren't good enough for much more than a guess. Could be AU55 to MS64.

My guess would be MS63.
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 Posted 01/11/2012  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brenpickle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I say MS64 but feel it is a slider between AU and MS
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I will take some better pictures tomorrow. I picked this and a few other better date coins at a local auction last weekend. I won this coin for 92.00 out the door. This auction has coins quite often, but this was the first time they had certified coins. It was the worst and best night of my life in many ways. I got several killer deals, but only had 500 dollars. Common date coins like slabbed ms-62 morgans were bringing high prices (around 90.00 each) but key and semi key date coins were going WAY below market value. For example a 1903 s Morgan slabbed by PCGS at MS-62 sold for 1150.00. All the coins were from a local's estate that had passed away. Several key date coins sold for next to nothing. I was in tears nearly while I sat and watched this. All the while several auction goers were shaking their heads at how "ridiculously high" the coins were bringing tonight. One said "morgans for 100.00 these sell for 20 dollars a piece all the time here what are these idiots thinking."
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My guess would be MS63
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MS61 or MS62 based on photos, I think the cheek is way more hit than the photo shows. The reverse loos nice though.
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The reverse seems to be in much better shape than the Obverse. With the wear above the ear it makes sense to me that it wouldn't have fetched mint state. A nice looking coin.
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That is a nice AU-58. There might be some rub right below the eye and next to the nose and possibly some on the reverse but the pictures are not clear enough to tell. I think the flatness above the ear is from weak strike rather than wear. Otherwise it looks MS.
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They only gave it AU? Wow, woulda thought it to have gone at least MS61
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I would have guessed MS-62 on the coin but it doesn't take very much run to make a MS coin a AU-58 coin, so I can see where they could say it is AU when they have the coin in hand. There are allot of people that actually search for AU-58 coins like this because you get the look of a MS coin for allot less money
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Brian1316: I would have guessed MS-62 on the coin but it doesn't take very much run to make a MS coin a AU-58 coin, so I can see where they could say it is AU when they have the coin in hand. There are allot of people that actually search for AU-58 coins like this because you get the look of a MS coin for allot less money


Exactly, and why it's so hard to tell some of these AU coins from UNC - one needs to have the coin in hand to see any rub spots or breaks in luster. A static photo just won't do, for me especially tough to call on borderline coins like SLQ, WL half, Peace $, St. Gaudens, Buffalo nickels, etc.
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Yea I would have thought it made MS too
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AU-58 is a good grade for this coin but I was thinking MS-60, but I can now understand why they graded AU. Not much difference in the price you would get for AU-58 or MS-60 on this coin. You said you bought it for a great price. Would you mind sharing the purchase price?
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